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Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 07:34:43 -0400
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Earl, as to the official nomenclature for the color of the Metallic =
Golden Beige cars:  I have copies of certificates for 89 of them.  =
Eighty-seven give the color name as "Metallic Golden Beige".  One gives =
it as "Golden Beige", and one (yours) gives it as "Beige" with the =
notation after that "Probably Golden Beige Metallic".

=20

My conclusion would be that the official name as documented in the =
majority of cases is "Metallic Golden Beige", with Golden Beige Metallic =
being not recorded in the build records but as "Beige" was interpreted =
by the BMIHT staffer who produced your certificate.

=20

The Metallic Golden Beige Registry does still exist with John Heffron.  =
It is not an officially-recognized AHCA registry and therefore not =
listed in Healey Marque magazine.  I believe John documents only cars =
for which the owner has contributed information to him.  The BJ8 =
Registry goal is to document ALL BJ8s whether or not any owner can be =
identified.  To accomplish this goal, I have had invaluable help from a =
friend in England who has researched for me in the BMIHT archives for =
more than 15 years.  The BJ8 Registry has ALL of the 553 original =
Metallic Golden Beige cars included, so any cars John has in his =
register are incorporated in the BJ8s.  I do not know if John tries to =
record any details beyond the VIN, as does the BJ8 Registry.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Earl =
Kagna
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:40 AM
To: Deejay2650; Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction

=20

You are correct. As the owner (for 38 years) of an original Golden Beige =
Metallic (not MGB) late BJ8 (# 42845), I have done a bit of research =
over the years. From memory, approximately 550 late BJ8=E2=80=99s were =
produced, all in 1967.  Approx. 50 of these were trimmed in red, the =
rest Black. Indeed, an original red trimmed car is very rare.

=20

It is known that the factory did have problems with the paint =E2=80=93 =
many cars had to be repainted =E2=80=93 both at the factory and the =
dealerships. A lot had the colour changed at the same time.  Metallic =
paint technology (without clearcoat) was not what it is today.  An =
original GBM BJ8 would look almost completely silver in certain light =
because of the very fine aluminum flake in the paint. Today=E2=80=99s =
paint technology is far superior resulting in truly beautiful GBM paint =
jobs on restored BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 these cars look far better than =
anything from the factory in 1967.

=20

The colour has become quite popular on restored Healey=E2=80=99s because =
of the auctions over that last few years, especially Barret =E2=80=93 =
Jackson, who had a couple of restorers doing them up for them because =
they sold very well.  The colour has been called sandy beige, champagne, =
elc. etc. but what they have been trying to emulate is the original =
Golden Beige Metallic.  If the colour is on any Healey other than a very =
late BJ8, it is not original to that car, as in the Hershey example.  I =
have seen the colour on almost every model of Healey over the years,  no =
reason why not, it=E2=80=99s a nice colour!

=20

At one point, there was a register of original Golden Beige Metallic =
cars, but I haven=E2=80=99t heard much about it in recent years.  If =
memory serves, I believe that register has now been  incorporated into =
Steve Beyer=E2=80=99 overall BJ8 register.

=20

Comments Steve?

=20

Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C. Canada
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

=20


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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Earl, as to the official nomenclature for the color =
of the Metallic Golden Beige cars:=C2=A0 I have copies of certificates =
for 89 of them.=C2=A0 Eighty-seven give the color name as &quot;Metallic =
Golden Beige&quot;.=C2=A0 One gives it as &quot;Golden Beige&quot;, and =
one (yours) gives it as &quot;Beige&quot; with the notation after that =
&quot;Probably Golden Beige Metallic&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>My conclusion would be that the official name as =
documented in the majority of cases is &quot;Metallic Golden =
Beige&quot;, with Golden Beige Metallic being not recorded in the build =
records but as &quot;Beige&quot; was interpreted by the BMIHT staffer =
who produced your certificate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>The Metallic Golden Beige Registry does still =
exist with John Heffron.=C2=A0 It is not an officially-recognized AHCA =
registry and therefore not listed in Healey Marque magazine.=C2=A0 I =
believe John documents only cars for which the owner has contributed =
information to him.=C2=A0 The BJ8 Registry goal is to document ALL BJ8s =
whether or not any owner can be identified.=C2=A0 To accomplish this =
goal, I have had invaluable help from a friend in England who has =
researched for me in the BMIHT archives for more than 15 years.=C2=A0 =
The BJ8 Registry has ALL of the 553 original Metallic Golden Beige cars =
included, so any cars John has in his register are incorporated in the =
BJ8s.=C2=A0 I do not know if John tries to record any details beyond the =
VIN, as does the BJ8 Registry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Earl =
Kagna<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Deejay2650; Healey List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM =
Hershey auction<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>You are =
correct. As the owner (for 38 years) of an original Golden Beige =
Metallic (not MGB) late BJ8 (# 42845), I have done a bit of research =
over the years. From memory, approximately 550 late BJ8=E2=80=99s were =
produced, all in 1967.&nbsp; Approx. 50 of these were trimmed in red, =
the rest Black. Indeed, an original red trimmed car is very =
rare.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>It is known =
that the factory did have problems with the paint =E2=80=93 many cars =
had to be repainted =E2=80=93 both at the factory and the dealerships. A =
lot had the colour changed at the same time.&nbsp; Metallic paint =
technology (without clearcoat) was not what it is today.&nbsp; An =
original GBM BJ8 would look almost completely silver in certain light =
because of the very fine aluminum flake in the paint. Today=E2=80=99s =
paint technology is far superior resulting in truly beautiful GBM paint =
jobs on restored BJ8=E2=80=99s =E2=80=93 these cars look far better than =
anything from the factory in 1967.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>The colour has =
become quite popular on restored Healey=E2=80=99s because of the =
auctions over that last few years, especially Barret =E2=80=93 Jackson, =
who had a couple of restorers doing them up for them because they sold =
very well.&nbsp; The colour has been called sandy beige, champagne, elc. =
etc. but what they have been trying to emulate is the original Golden =
Beige Metallic.&nbsp; If the colour is on any Healey other than a very =
late BJ8, it is not original to that car, as in the Hershey =
example.&nbsp; I have seen the colour on almost every model of Healey =
over the years,&nbsp; no reason why not, it=E2=80=99s a nice =
colour!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>At one point, =
there was a register of original Golden Beige Metallic cars, but I =
haven=E2=80=99t heard much about it in recent years.&nbsp; If memory =
serves, I believe that register has now been&nbsp; incorporated into =
Steve Beyer=E2=80=99 overall BJ8 =
register.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>Comments =
Steve?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#141100'>Earl =
Kagna<br>Victoria, B.C. Canada<br>BJ8, BT7 =
tri-carb<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
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