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Re: [Healeys] FW: Radiator flush

To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Radiator flush
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 10:35:24 -0700
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that is an interesting take on the issue.
Thanks
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words


On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:18 AM Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Back to the matter of using Distilled Water.  I discussed this comment
> with my German/American friend who was installing a aluminum radiator in
> his Lagonda Drop Head Coup.  He has owned various European Vehicles with
> aluminum radiators, and classic cars with aluminum radiators.  He cannot
> understand the need for distilled water if you are using antifreeze which
> includes anti-corrosion additives or using such additive separately.
> Furthermore, the biggest problem with alloy radiators is the matter of a
> good grounded engine.  His experience the failure of the alloy radiator is
> a poorly grounded engine which causes the electric current to run to ground
> via the water in coolant system  hence destroy the aluminum being
> dissimilar metal.   So check the soundness of the ground.
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> BJ8 67
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Salter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:51 PM
> *To:* David Nock BCS <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>; i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator flush
>
>
>
> " If you are installing a alloy radiator be sure and use Distilled water"
>
> Those are definitely the words of someone who "has suffered the
> consequences" ...
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 5:47 PM David Nock BCS <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> If you are installing a alloy radiator be sure and use Distilled water.
>
>
>
> The water flows thru the radiator top to bottom. It flows thru the heater
> from the lower hose thru the heater returning to the head.
>
>
>
> Water will not flow backwards thru the heater valve.
>
>
>
>
>
> David Nock
> British Car Specialists
> 209-948-8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com
>
>
>
> *From:* i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2019 11:10 AM
>
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Radiator flush
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Preparing to install my alum radiator. Thought I would flush the cooling
> system.
>
> Which diretion direction does water flow? From block though
> Shut off vavle into heater core, or through pipe and back into block
> through the shut off valve?
>
> Is my valve in open ir closed position? Heater controls not reinstalled
> yet. Unit get hot so Ill asume open, but want to confirm. Removed
> thermostat to help water flush ststem easier. Im going to add extra hose
> and splice in a water hose bib. That way I can remove it and put system
> back in place.
>
> Im off this week, but the rain gods are laughing at me. So I'm just
> getting everything ready for the sweet spot of having time and sunshine so
> I can back the car out of the garage and flush the system. I plan to drain
> the anti freeze and fill with flush chemicals and water when I'm ready to
> flush. Bought new anti freeze for my new radiator.
>
> Driving season is fast approaching.
>
> Happy roads and saftey fast
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
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<div dir=3D"ltr">that is an interesting take on the issue.<div>Thanks<br cl=
ear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><=
span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><b=
r style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1=
959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#=
39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishca=
rspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div><br></d=
iv><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue=
&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal=
 with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br></div><div>Please ex=
cuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><b=
r></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:18 AM Robert Begani &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
rfbegani@gmail.com">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gma=
il-m_-5394139935368622243WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Back to the matter of using Distill=
ed Water.=C2=A0 I discussed this comment with my German/American friend who=
 was installing a aluminum radiator in his Lagonda Drop Head Coup.=C2=A0 He=
 has owned various European Vehicles with aluminum radiators, and classic c=
ars with aluminum radiators.=C2=A0 He cannot understand the need for distil=
led water if you are using antifreeze which includes anti-corrosion additiv=
es or using such additive separately.=C2=A0 Furthermore, the biggest proble=
m with alloy radiators is the matter of a good grounded engine.=C2=A0 His e=
xperience the failure of the alloy radiator is a poorly grounded engine whi=
ch causes the electric current to run to ground via the water in coolant sy=
stem =C2=A0hence destroy the aluminum being dissimilar metal.=C2=A0 =C2=A0S=
o check the soundness of the ground.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
Bob Begani<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">BJ8 67<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heal=
eys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, Apr=
il 3, 2019 5:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Nock BCS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
ydoc@sbcglobal.net" target=3D"_blank">healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;<br><b=
>Cc:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ey=
era3000@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Subj=
ect:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator flush<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">&quot; If you are ins=
talling a alloy radiator be sure and use Distilled water&quot;<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Those are definitely the words of s=
omeone who &quot;has suffered the consequences&quot; ...<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-=
family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;">M<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 3,=
 2019 at 5:47 PM David Nock BCS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bott=
om:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;marg=
in:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">If you are insta=
lling a alloy radiator be sure and use Distilled water. <u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-=
family:Century,serif;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,s=
erif;color:black">The water flows thru the radiator top to bottom. It flows=
 thru the heater from the lower hose thru the heater returning to the head.=
 <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;f=
ont-family:Century,serif;color:black">Water will not flow backwards thru th=
e heater valve.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fon=
t-family:Century,serif;color:black">David Nock<br>British Car Specialists<b=
r>209-948-8767<br><a href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">www.britishcarspecialists.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck"> <a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; title=3D"eyera3000@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">i erbs</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> Wednesday, Apri=
l 03, 2019 11:10 AM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">To:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Ahealey =
help</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tah=
oma,sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> [Healeys] Radiator flush<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></di=
v><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:blac=
k">Hello all, <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Preparing to install my alum radiator. T=
hought I would flush the cooling system.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Which di=
retion direction does water flow? From block though <br>Shut off vavle into=
 heater core, or through pipe and back into block through the shut off valv=
e?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;color:black">Is my valve in open ir closed position? Heater=
 controls not reinstalled yet. Unit get hot so Ill asume open, but want to =
confirm. Removed thermostat to help water flush ststem easier. Im going to =
add extra hose and splice in a water hose bib. That way I can remove it and=
 put system back in place.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Im off this week, but =
the rain gods are laughing at me. So I&#39;m just getting everything ready =
for the sweet spot of having time and sunshine so I can back the car out of=
 the garage and flush the system. I plan to drain the anti freeze and fill =
with flush chemicals and water when I&#39;m ready to flush. Bought new anti=
 freeze for my new radiator.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Driving season is fa=
st approaching.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Happy roads and saftey fast<u></u=
><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:black">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are the faul=
t of my phone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span style=3D"font-size=
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