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Re: [Healeys] FW: Radiator flush

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Radiator flush
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:02:13 -0700
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Interesting. In all the research and comments I read before buying the
radiator I never heard about rapid distruction. Only about how great they
were.  Was planning to keep my oem unit. Now convinced I should.
Thanks all.

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 1:28 PM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Much and all as that sounds like a good theory I am having difficulty with
> the logic.
> A starter won't work if an engine isn't adequately grounded and a ground
> of sufficient size to operate a starter will definitely be big enough to
> eliminate any EMF difference between the engine and the chassis.
> I've had an aluminum radiator corrode to worthlessness after only 3 years,
> with corrosion inhibitors in the coolant, and have yet to hear a realistic
> explanation for why it happened.
>
> M
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 11:56 AM Robert Begani, <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Back to the matter of using Distilled Water.  I discussed this comment
>> with my German/American friend who was installing a aluminum radiator in
>> his Lagonda Drop Head Coup.  He has owned various European Vehicles with
>> aluminum radiators, and classic cars with aluminum radiators.  He cannot
>> understand the need for distilled water if you are using antifreeze which
>> includes anti-corrosion additives or using such additive separately.
>> Furthermore, the biggest problem with alloy radiators is the matter of a
>> good grounded engine.  His experience the failure of the alloy radiator is
>> a poorly grounded engine which causes the electric current to run to ground
>> via the water in coolant system  hence destroy the aluminum being
>> dissimilar metal.   So check the soundness of the ground.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> BJ8 67
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
>> Salter
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:51 PM
>> *To:* David Nock BCS <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net>
>> *Cc:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>; i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator flush
>>
>>
>>
>> " If you are installing a alloy radiator be sure and use Distilled water"
>>
>> Those are definitely the words of someone who "has suffered the
>> consequences" ...
>>
>>
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 5:47 PM David Nock BCS <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If you are installing a alloy radiator be sure and use Distilled water.
>>
>>
>>
>> The water flows thru the radiator top to bottom. It flows thru the heater
>> from the lower hose thru the heater returning to the head.
>>
>>
>>
>> Water will not flow backwards thru the heater valve.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> David Nock
>> British Car Specialists
>> 209-948-8767
>> www.britishcarspecialists.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2019 11:10 AM
>>
>> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>
>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Radiator flush
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Preparing to install my alum radiator. Thought I would flush the cooling
>> system.
>>
>> Which diretion direction does water flow? From block though
>> Shut off vavle into heater core, or through pipe and back into block
>> through the shut off valve?
>>
>> Is my valve in open ir closed position? Heater controls not reinstalled
>> yet. Unit get hot so Ill asume open, but want to confirm. Removed
>> thermostat to help water flush ststem easier. Im going to add extra hose
>> and splice in a water hose bib. That way I can remove it and put system
>> back in place.
>>
>> Im off this week, but the rain gods are laughing at me. So I'm just
>> getting everything ready for the sweet spot of having time and sunshine so
>> I can back the car out of the garage and flush the system. I plan to drain
>> the anti freeze and fill with flush chemicals and water when I'm ready to
>> flush. Bought new anti freeze for my new radiator.
>>
>> Driving season is fast approaching.
>>
>> Happy roads and saftey fast
>>
>> Ira Erbs
>> Portland, OR
>> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
>> ------------------------------
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<div dir=3D"auto">Interesting. In all the research and comments I read befo=
re buying the radiator I never heard about rapid distruction. Only about ho=
w great they were.=C2=A0 Was planning to keep my oem unit. Now convinced I =
should.<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks all.<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_si=
gnature" dir=3D"auto">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are t=
he fault of my phone</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 1:28 PM Michael Salter=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>michael.salter@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Muc=
h and all as that sounds like a good theory I am having difficulty with the=
 logic.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">A starter won&#39;t work if an engine isn&#3=
9;t adequately grounded and a ground of sufficient size to operate a starte=
r will definitely be big enough to eliminate any EMF difference between the=
 engine and the chassis.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve had an alumi=
num radiator corrode to worthlessness after only 3 years, with corrosion in=
hibitors in the coolant, and have yet to hear a realistic explanation for w=
hy it happened.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M<=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 11:56 AM Robert Begani, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfb=
egani@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">rfbegani@gmail.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" li=
nk=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_7915477274180046550m_381581108=
6204272847WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Back to the matter of using Distilled Water=
.=C2=A0 I discussed this comment with my German/American friend who was ins=
talling a aluminum radiator in his Lagonda Drop Head Coup.=C2=A0 He has own=
ed various European Vehicles with aluminum radiators, and classic cars with=
 aluminum radiators.=C2=A0 He cannot understand the need for distilled wate=
r if you are using antifreeze which includes anti-corrosion additives or us=
ing such additive separately.=C2=A0 Furthermore, the biggest problem with a=
lloy radiators is the matter of a good grounded engine.=C2=A0 His experienc=
e the failure of the alloy radiator is a poorly grounded engine which cause=
s the electric current to run to ground via the water in coolant system =C2=
=A0hence destroy the aluminum being dissimilar metal.=C2=A0 =C2=A0So check =
the soundness of the ground.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f=
497d">Bob Begani<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d=
">BJ8 67<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of=
 </b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:51 PM<br><b>=
To:</b> David Nock BCS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt=
;<br><b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt;; i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] Radiator flush<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">&quot; If you are installing=
 a alloy radiator be sure and use Distilled water&quot;<u></u><u></u></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Those are definitely the words of someon=
e who &quot;has suffered the consequences&quot; ...<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comi=
c Sans MS&quot;">M<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 3, =
2019 at 5:47 PM David Nock BCS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.ne=
t" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeydoc@sbcglobal.net<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;bord=
er-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;mar=
gin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Centu=
ry&quot;,serif;color:black">If you are installing a alloy radiator be sure =
and use Distilled water. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century&quot;,se=
rif;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">The water flows thru the radiator top to bottom. It flows th=
ru the heater from the lower hose thru the heater returning to the head. <u=
></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century&quot;,serif;color:black">=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Century&quot;,serif;color:black">Water will n=
ot flow backwards thru the heater valve.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
entury&quot;,serif;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cen=
tury&quot;,serif;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Centu=
ry&quot;,serif;color:black">David Nock<br>British Car Specialists<br>209-94=
8-8767<br><a href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com"; rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.britishcarspecialists.com</a><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <a href=
=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; title=3D"eyera3000@gmail.com" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">i erbs</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black=
">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Wednesday, April 03, 2019 11:10 AM<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whites=
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ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">Ahealey help</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Subjec=
t:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:black"> [Healeys] Radiator flush<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0=
pt;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Hello all, <u=
></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;color:black">Preparing to install my alum radiator. Thought I would=
 flush the cooling system.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Which diretion direc=
tion does water flow? From block though <br>Shut off vavle into heater core=
, or through pipe and back into block through the shut off valve?<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2.0pt;color:black">Is my valve in open ir closed position? Heater controls =
not reinstalled yet. Unit get hot so Ill asume open, but want to confirm. R=
emoved thermostat to help water flush ststem easier. Im going to add extra =
hose and splice in a water hose bib. That way I can remove it and put syste=
m back in place.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Im off this week, but the rain=
 gods are laughing at me. So I&#39;m just getting everything ready for the =
sweet spot of having time and sunshine so I can back the car out of the gar=
age and flush the system. I plan to drain the anti freeze and fill with flu=
sh chemicals and water when I&#39;m ready to flush. Bought new anti freeze =
for my new radiator.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Driving season is fast app=
roaching.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Happy roads and saftey fast<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
color:black">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are the fault =
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