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I gladly pay twice the price
=E2=80=98Cause it ain=E2=80=99t no deal after
I=E2=80=99ve had to replace it thrice!
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: David Nock [mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 7:03 PM
To: Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
Cc: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>; Richard Collins =
<gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mind if I Rant?
=20
This an issue I deal with everyday. The bumper iron you got probably =
came from England and yes they are a poor quality. I have them from =
Kilmartin and the fit. They also cost probably 30 percent more.=20
=20
You want a real issue the rubber parts that rot away in less than a year =
without the car ever being out in the sun. I have a better quality one =
and they are twice the price. Then some people complain at the cost.=20
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 12, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com =
I=E2=80=99ve been told the same thing. I=E2=80=99ll give a shout out to =
Dave Nock here. My practice is to go through Dave because he=E2=80=99s =
always steered me to the best, or at least the better, quality parts =
available. And I=E2=80=99ve plumbed his inventory of used and NOS many =
times.
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net]=20
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 1:44 PM
To: Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com =
Cc: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com =
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mind if I Rant?
=20
As far as repops go, I asked a Moss rep one time why a lot of the =
reproduction parts and the rubber was so bad and did not fit well. He =
told me that he could sell better parts for our cars but very few people =
will buy them. If he lists both a premium part and a cheaper version, =
almost 95% will buy the cheap part. It would be foolish to inventory =
such slow moving parts, so they sell what the majority will buy. =
Everyone wants the parts to be cheap. S
So, I guess you get what you pay for.
Mike MacLean
=20
On Friday, July 12, 2019, 8:29:19 AM PDT, Richard Collins =
=20
=20
Yup, fully agree with the rant:=20
=20
The rear bumper brackets were not even close to fitting the attachment =
holes on my rear bumper, both purchased at the same time from the =
vendor. As a result, one each of the bracket bolts hold the bumper to =
the car with the other hole in the bumper empty. Looks weird but =
doesn=E2=80=99t impact drivability. The bumper is so thin that any rear =
ender will destroy it anyway.
Regards,=20
Richard C
BN7 440
On Jul 11, 2019, at 23:41, Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com =
Amen to that. The inner forks of front bumper mounting brackets I =
bought a number of years ago were a bit over an inch shorter than the =
outer forks, which required sectioning and welding in extensions to =
bring them level. In retrospect, I probably should have taken an inch =
out of the outer forks, as the bumper sits too far proud of the shroud. =
I=E2=80=99d totally forgotten about this until I took my aux lamps off =
and reinstalled the bumper for a show this weekend. After the show, the =
bumper is coming off and the lamps are going back on.
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:39 PM
To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net =
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mind if I Rant?
=20
Mike you are pretty well "on the money" there.
I have encountered endless problems with repop parts. I fail to =
understand why manufacturers have so much difficulty getting things =
right.=20
My suspicion is that we are all partly to blame for accepting the junk =
and trying to make it work.
I will go to untold lengths to purchase a good used part any time as so =
doing invariably saves me hours and hours of frustration...
=20
I feel your pain.
=20
M
=20
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 4:19 PM Mike MacLean, <rrengineer.mike@att.net =
I am beginning to understand what a restorer friend of mine once told =
me. He said he could restore three BJ8 cars in the time it took to do a =
100. Virtually no parts I have bought from the usual suspects for my =
BN2 are easy to install. Nothing fits like it was made for the car. =
This morning I made an attempt to bolt up the two bump stop boxes over =
the rear axle. None of the holes in the part lined up with the holes in =
the body above the rear axle. I will have to auger out at least three =
of the holes in the bump stop box to get all four bolts in. This car is =
fighting me every step of the way. I guess it's like my restorer friend =
who has since passed told me when he sold me that rolling frame with a =
few body panels on it, "Go ahead buy the car, it will give you a reason =
to live". I am beginning to understand what he meant. Half the time I =
am pulling my hair out and inventing new curse words, but I go out to =
that garage everyday and try to accomplish something on the car, even if =
I end up beating my head against the wall, I keep coming back. Rant =
over.
Mike MacLean
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>I gladly pay twice the =
price<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>=E2=80=98Cause it =
ain=E2=80=99t no deal after<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>I=E2=80=99ve had to replace it =
thrice!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
David Nock [mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July =
12, 2019 7:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Steele =
<healeybruce@roadrunner.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Michael MacLean =
<rrengineer.mike@att.net>; Richard Collins =
<gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>; =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Mind if I =
Rant?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This an =
issue I deal with everyday. The bumper iron you got probably came from =
England and yes they are a poor quality. I have them from Kilmartin and =
the fit. They also cost probably 30 percent =
more. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>You want a real issue the rubber parts =
that rot away in less than a year without the car ever being out in the =
sun. I have a better quality one and they are twice the price. Then some =
people complain at the cost. <o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 12, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Bruce =
Steele <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com";>healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>=
> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>I=E2=80=99ve been told the same thing. =
I=E2=80=99ll give a shout out to Dave Nock here. My practice is to =
go through Dave because he=E2=80=99s always steered me to the best, or =
at least the better, quality parts available. And I=E2=80=99ve =
plumbed his inventory of used and NOS many =
times.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Michael MacLean [<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net</a=
>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 12, 2019 1:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce =
Steele <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com";>healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>=
>; Richard Collins <<a =
href=3D"mailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com";>gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br><b>Cc:</b> Michael Salter <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>>; =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Mind if I =
Rant?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> As far as repops go, I asked =
a Moss rep one time why a lot of the reproduction parts and the rubber =
was so bad and did not fit well. He told me that he could sell =
better parts for our cars but very few people will buy them. If he =
lists both a premium part and a cheaper version, almost 95% will buy the =
cheap part. It would be foolish to inventory such slow moving parts, so =
they sell what the majority will buy. Everyone wants the parts to =
be cheap. S<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> So, I guess you get what you =
pay for.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Mike =
MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yahoo_quoted_3324050805"><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Friday, July 12, 2019, 8:29:19 AM PDT, Richard Collins <<a =
href=3D"mailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com";>gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote: </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv0907245582><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Yup, fully agree with the rant: </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>The rear bumper brackets were not even close to fitting the =
attachment holes on my rear bumper, both purchased at the same time from =
the vendor. As a result, one each of the bracket bolts hold the bumper =
to the car with the other hole in the bumper empty. Looks weird but =
doesn=E2=80=99t impact drivability. The bumper is so thin that any rear =
ender will destroy it anyway.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Regards, </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Richard C</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>BN7 440</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv0907245582yqtfd62795><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><br>On Jul 11, 2019, at 23:41, Bruce Steele <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>> =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div =
id=3Dyiv0907245582yqtfd37164><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Amen to that. The inner forks of front bumper mounting brackets =
I bought a number of years ago were a bit over an inch shorter than the =
outer forks, which required sectioning and welding in extensions to =
bring them level. In retrospect, I probably should have taken an =
inch out of the outer forks, as the bumper sits too far proud of the =
shroud. I=E2=80=99d totally forgotten about this until I took my =
aux lamps off and reinstalled the bumper for a show this weekend. =
After the show, the bumper is coming off and the lamps are going back =
on.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Bruce Steele</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Brea, CA</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>1960 BN7</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 11, 2019 =
1:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael MacLean <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Mind if I Rant?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Mike you are pretty well "on the money" =
there.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I have encountered endless problems with repop parts. I fail to =
understand why manufacturers have so much difficulty getting things =
right. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>My suspicion is that we are all partly to blame for accepting the =
junk and trying to make it work.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I will go to untold lengths to purchase a good used part any time as =
so doing invariably saves me hours and hours of =
frustration...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I feel your pain.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>M</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 4:19 PM Mike MacLean, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>> =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I am beginning to understand what a restorer friend of mine once told =
me. He said he could restore three BJ8 cars in the time it took to =
do a 100. Virtually no parts I have bought from the usual suspects =
for my BN2 are easy to install. Nothing fits like it was made for =
the car. This morning I made an attempt to bolt up the two bump =
stop boxes over the rear axle. None of the holes in the part lined =
up with the holes in the body above the rear axle. I will have to =
auger out at least three of the holes in the bump stop box to get all =
four bolts in. This car is fighting me every step of the =
way. I guess it's like my restorer friend who has since passed =
told me when he sold me that rolling frame with a few body panels on it, =
"Go ahead buy the car, it will give you a reason to =
live". I am beginning to understand what he meant. Half =
the time I am pulling my hair out and inventing new curse words, but I =
go out to that garage everyday and try to accomplish something on the =
car, even if I end up beating my head against the wall, I keep coming =
back. Rant over.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Mike MacLean</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dyiv0907245582msonormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
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