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Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes

To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes
From: Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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By "rolling road" do you guys mean something similar to a dyno testing mac=
hine where I can have the car under load and at speed while it's standing =
still?=0ASK=0A=0AOn August 10, 2019 at 3:18 PM, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.p=
lus.com wrote:=0A=0A=0A=0AOops, sent this to Kees by mistake. Been watchin=
g the rugby. Guinness=E2=80=A6.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0AConcur with Kees.=0A=0APe=
ople have been known to get too clever with needles ie alter their profile=
s. So maybe your needles are wrong.=0A=0AWhat sort of distributor do you h=
ave? Electronic ones are very clever=E2=80=A6can be too clever. Maybe some=
one has set the advance curve all to hell or it=E2=80=99s got a malfunctio=
n. Though, with regards to malfunction, I thing they=E2=80=99re either 100=
% dead or 100% alive.=0A=0AA good rolling road place where they=E2=80=99ve=
 got springs, needles etcetc is a must. I=E2=80=99ve just been through som=
ething similar which was resolved by analysis at rolling road.=0A=0ASimon=0A=
=0A=C2=A0=0A=0AFrom: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of=
 Kees Oudesluijs=0ASent: 10 August 2019 22:40=0ATo: healeys@autox.team.net=
=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0AThis sounds =
like a carburettor problem (wrong needles/jets/springs?) where the car is =
running very lean between 2500 and 3200rpm. Check if there are any vacuum =
leaks.=0A=0ACheck the advance curve of the distributor, may be a spring fr=
om one or both of the bob weights is loose/broken/missing.=C2=A0=0A=0AChec=
k the timing of the cam shaft.=0A=0AMixture, ignition and cam shaft settin=
gs can be very different from the original because of the changes in the e=
ngine. It should really be set up on a rolling road.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=C2=A0=
=0A=0AOp 10-8-2019 om 23:03 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys:=0A=0ATo =
start off, my car, an early BN1, #598 was burned up in the Paradise fire a=
nd I just bought another BN1 to replace it. The new car has been hot rodde=
d up a bit. Cam, bigger carbs and different pistons so it has a way differ=
ent compression ratio and has been in this configuration for over ten year=
s I believe. Was told it runs like the wind and came from a reliable and t=
rust worthy person. Well I'm having problems with the car. Up to 2500 RPM,=
 it runs great! When I can get it up to 3200 RPM it runs great again, it's=
 the 2500 to 3200 range where I'm having problems.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
It feels like it's starving for fuel, or it has too much fuel, it hesitate=
s, feels like it's not running on all cylinders, and generally like a buck=
ing bronco, but then at 3200 or so, she smooths right out and flies!=0A=0A=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I was told the carbs were set up a little rich. I leaned=
 them out one flat at a time and no difference until they got too lean and=
 wouldn't run well at all. So I took them back to original setting positio=
ns.=C2=A0=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I've checked all gaps, they're all right.=
 Pulled plugs when getting home and they are all fine, a little brown and =
all even looking. New condenser, new coil, changed to new plugs, I have no=
t checked the timing yet, but with the way it runs below 2500 and above 30=
00, it seems to be just fine.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I am getting the car =
up in the air Monday as I have new tires to replace the old ones and will =
do a static timing check at that time. My old four cylinder was a breeze t=
o set up and ran smooth through all revs. What am I missing with an engine=
 set up like an M? Why would things go south between 2500 and 3000 and run=
 fine below and above?=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0All suggestions are welcome =
and I do have a new fuel pump on order, so fire away. I've been doing thin=
gs one step at a time to not introduce new problems, but this is the only =
problem that is consistent.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks,=0A=0ASteven Kin=
gsbury=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A______________________________________=
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<html><body><div>By "rolling road" do you guys mean something similar to a dyno 
testin=
g machine where I can have the car under load and at speed while it's stan=
ding still?</div><div>SK</div><div><br>On August 10, 2019 at 3:18 PM, simo=
n.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote" lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purp=
le"><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-=
fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">=
Oops, sent this to Kees by mistake. Been watching the rugby. Guinness=E2=80=
=A6.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:=
 EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">Concur with Kees.</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">People have been known to get too cl=
ever with needles ie alter their profiles. So maybe your needles are wrong=
.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN=
-US;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">What sort of distrib=
utor do you have? Electronic ones are very clever=E2=80=A6can be too cleve=
r. Maybe someone has set the advance curve all to hell or it=E2=80=99s got=
 a malfunction. Though, with regards to malfunction, I thing they=E2=80=99=
re either 100% dead or 100% alive.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-langu=
age: EN-US;">A good rolling road place where they=E2=80=99ve got springs, =
needles etcetc is a must. I=E2=80=99ve just been through something similar=
 which was resolved by analysis at rolling road.</span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"mso=
-fareast-language: EN-US;">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-languag=
e: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border: none; border-top: s=
olid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" data-mce-style=3D"border:=
 none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN=
-US"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; data-m=
ce-href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kees Oudesluijs<br><b>Sent:</b> 10 Augu=
st 2019 22:40<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; data=
-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes</span></p></div></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p>This sounds like a carburettor problem (w=
rong needles/jets/springs?) where the car is running very lean between 250=
0 and 3200rpm. Check if there are any vacuum leaks.</p><p>Check the advanc=
e curve of the distributor, may be a spring from one or both of the bob we=
ights is loose/broken/missing.&nbsp;</p><p>Check the timing of the cam sha=
ft.</p><p>Mixture, ignition and cam shaft settings can be very different f=
rom the original because of the changes in the engine. It should really be=
 set up on a rolling road.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Op 10-8-2019 om 23:03 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys:</p><=
/div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">To start off, my car, an early BN1, #598 was burned up in the Para=
dise fire and I just bought another BN1 to replace it. The new car has bee=
n hot rodded up a bit. Cam, bigger carbs and different pistons so it has a=
 way different compression ratio and has been in this configuration for ov=
er ten years I believe. Was told it runs like the wind and came from a rel=
iable and trust worthy person. Well I'm having problems with the car. Up t=
o 2500 RPM, it runs great! When I can get it up to 3200 RPM it runs great =
again, it's the 2500 to 3200 range where I'm having problems.</p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It feels like it's starving for=
 fuel, or it has too much fuel, it hesitates, feels like it's not running =
on all cylinders, and generally like a bucking bronco, but then at 3200 or=
 so, she smooths right out and flies!</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I was told the carbs were set up a little rich. I leane=
d them out one flat at a time and no difference until they got too lean an=
d wouldn't run well at all. So I took them back to original setting positi=
ons.&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I've che=
cked all gaps, they're all right. Pulled plugs when getting home and they =
are all fine, a little brown and all even looking. New condenser, new coil=
, changed to new plugs, I have not checked the timing yet, but with the wa=
y it runs below 2500 and above 3000, it seems to be just fine.</p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am getting the car up in the=
 air Monday as I have new tires to replace the old ones and will do a stat=
ic timing check at that time. My old four cylinder was a breeze to set up =
and ran smooth through all revs. What am I missing with an engine set up l=
ike an M? Why would things go south between 2500 and 3000 and run fine bel=
ow and above?</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All s=
uggestions are welcome and I do have a new fuel pump on order, so fire awa=
y. I've been doing things one step at a time to not introduce new problems=
, but this is the only problem that is consistent.</p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks,</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>Steven Kingsbury</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><p =
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