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Re: [Healeys] Down pipes

To: "Fred Wescoe" <fredwescoe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes
From: "Earl Kagna" <kags@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:57:15 -0700
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Fred =E2=80=93 Kees is right.  I believe that the problem is the split =
washers.  The factory used a flat washer only =E2=80=93 no lock washer =
at all -  along with the special tall brass nut.  The idea is that the =
less material there is for expansion / contraction. in that very hot =
environment, the less chance of problems.  I have been using a thin =
stainless flat washer for years on both Healeys =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ve =
never had loosening problems (they need to be checked after the initial =
few start cycles, say 100 miles or so, and then maybe at the next =
service).  I=E2=80=99ve also never torqued the flange nuts, just =
tightened them hard.

As a related aside, I=E2=80=99ve had better success over the years with =
the copper faced flange gaskets.  The other type seems to blow out a bit =
easier.

Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

From: Fred Wescoe=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:46 PM
To: healeys=20
Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes

Listers,=20

Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes.  This is =
the second time in 2 years I have had to do this.  What is causing the =
nuts to work loose?  Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has =
split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges.  Each time =
time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak.

What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue?  What do I =
need to do to fix this?  The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and =
down pipes.

Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped,

Fred
66 BJ8


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<DIV>Fred =E2=80=93 Kees is right.&nbsp; I believe that the problem is =
the split=20
washers.&nbsp; The factory used a flat washer only =E2=80=93 no lock =
washer at all=20
-&nbsp; along with the special tall brass nut.&nbsp; The idea is that =
the less=20
material there is for expansion / contraction. in that very hot =
environment, the=20
less chance of problems.&nbsp; I have been using a thin stainless flat =
washer=20
for years on both Healeys =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ve never had loosening =
problems (they need to be=20
checked after the initial few start cycles, say 100 miles or so, and =
then maybe=20
at the next service).&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve also never torqued the flange =
nuts, just=20
tightened them hard.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As a related aside, I=E2=80=99ve had better success over the years =
with the copper=20
faced flange gaskets.&nbsp; The other type seems to blow out a bit =
easier.</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#141100">Earl=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:fredwescoe@gmail.com";>Fred Wescoe</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:46 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Healeys] Down pipes</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>Listers,=20
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<DIV>Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes.&nbsp; =
This is=20
the second time in 2 years I have had to do this.&nbsp; What is causing =
the nuts=20
to work loose?&nbsp; Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has =
split=20
lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges.&nbsp; Each time =
time I=20
have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue?&nbsp; =
What do I=20
need to do to fix this?&nbsp; The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds =
and down=20
pipes.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Fred</DIV>
<DIV>66 BJ8</DIV></DIV>
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