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To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:58:36 -0500
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"Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem,=
 who
knows?"

Bob that has perplexed me for decades but certainly seems to be reality.
Good luck with your modifications  ... I  have always found that additional
tubes in the radiator make a huge difference.

M

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 12:27 PM Robert Begani, <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day
> is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a
> high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.  Great for a day sail on the
> Harbor which I will do in the next hour.  However, it does make driving a
> hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator t=
o
> handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does
> not go down only up.  So the next step is to re-core the radiator.  The
> local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core
> using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity.
> This is a SKI purchase.  Spend the Kids Inheritance.  Then I will think
> about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.
>
>
>
> What do you think about Push and Pull?  Take off the engine fan?
>
>
>
> By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed,
> everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it u=
p
> to specifications.  He knows what to do.  The only modification is the 20
> over pistons.
>
>
>
> Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem=
, who
> knows?
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
> *To:* Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator
>
>
>
> Bob
>
> With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car
> should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There
> is something else amiss in the equation.
>
> Perry
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
> *To: *'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
> *Subject: *RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator
>
>
>
> Hi Perry:
>
>
>
> I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss
> with the largest diameter to fit the radiator.  As a pusher it really
> pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing stil=
l.
> I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine.  As I was
> searching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not
> recommended as they act against each other.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:16px">&quot;Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock ra=
diator not have this problem, who knows?&quot;</span><div dir=3D"auto"><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px=
"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);fo=
nt-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">Bob that has perplexed=C2=A0me f=
or decades but certainly seems to be reality.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size=
:16px">Good luck with your modifications=C2=A0 ... I=C2=A0 have always foun=
d that additional tubes in the radiator make a huge difference.=C2=A0</span=
></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">M</=
span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 12:27 PM Robert Begani, &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:rfbegani@gmail.com">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"#954F72">=
<div class=3D"m_-2388756254178813721WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:#1f497d">I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool wi=
nter day is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising=
 to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=C2=A0 Great for a day sai=
l on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour.=C2=A0 However, it does ma=
ke driving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock=
 radiator to handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temper=
ature does not go down only up.=C2=A0 So the next step is to re-core the ra=
diator.=C2=A0 The local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will pr=
ovide new core using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more coolin=
g capacity.=C2=A0 This is a SKI purchase.=C2=A0 Spend the Kids Inheritance.=
=C2=A0 Then I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers t=
o stop vapor lock.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f49=
7d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">What=
 do you think about Push and Pull?=C2=A0 Take off the engine fan?<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">By the way, I know the engine ma=
chine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the engine during his mach=
ining of the engine to bring it up to specifications.=C2=A0 He knows what t=
o do.=C2=A0 The only modification is the 20 over pistons.=C2=A0 <u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s wit=
h a stock radiator not have this problem, who knows?<u></u><u></u></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bob <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"borde=
r:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Perry &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeyguy@aol.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:=
</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> Robert Begani &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">rfb=
egani@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and a=
dding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>Bob<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">With the extras that you have =
added to facilitate the airflow the car should be running much cooler than =
212, even with a stock radiator. There is something else amiss in the equat=
ion. <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Perry<u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <=
a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">Mail</a> for Windows 10<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:sol=
id #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:=
 </b><a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">Robert Begani</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<b=
r><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">&#39;Perry&#39;</a><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heati=
ng and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator<u></u><u></u></=
p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif=
;color:#1f497d">Hi Perry:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497=
d">I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss=
 with the largest diameter to fit the radiator.=C2=A0 As a pusher it really=
 pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing still=
. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine.=C2=A0 As I was =
searching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not recomme=
nded as they act against each other.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">Bob</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
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