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To: warthodson@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:04:11 -0500
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Robert--

I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with
lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust.
I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are still
intact.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a
> thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or not. Eithe=
r
> that type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypass would b=
e
> essential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
> Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator
>
> I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day
> is today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a
> high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.  Great for a day sail on the
> Harbor which I will do in the next hour.  However, it does make driving a
> hot car fun. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator t=
o
> handle hot climates and have to stop and go because the temperature does
> not go down only up.  So the next step is to re-core the radiator.  The
> local radiator guy knows the problem and for $500 will provide new core
> using the old tanks which will give at least 50% more cooling capacity.
> This is a SKI purchase.  Spend the Kids Inheritance.  Then I will think
> about wrapping the exhaust manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.
>
> What do you think about Push and Pull?  Take off the engine fan?
>
> By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed,
> everything in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it u=
p
> to specifications.  He knows what to do.  The only modification is the 20
> over pistons.
>
> Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem=
, who
> knows?
>
> Bob
>
> *From:* Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
> *To:* Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator
>
> Bob
> With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car
> should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There
> is something else amiss in the equation.
> Perry
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
> *To: *'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
> *Subject: *RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to
> theexisting radiator
>
> Hi Perry:
>
> I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss
> with the largest diameter to fit the radiator.  As a pusher it really
> pushes air through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing stil=
l.
> I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine.  As I was
> searching overheating problems, one reference indicated that is not
> recommended as they act against each other.
>
> Bob
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Rober=
t--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll h=
ear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system with lagging as it wi=
ll cause its early=C2=A0demise due to rust.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I was told that=C2=A018 years ago an=
d didn&#39;t listen--my steel headers are still intact.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329">
<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">I am jumping in on this subject =
a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a mo=
ving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixe=
d blanking sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or an=
y climate for that matter.=C2=A0=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">


<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Robert Begani &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: &#39;Perry&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">healeyguy@aol.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to the=
existing radiator<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">


<div id=3D"gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329yqt90724">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329">

<div>

<div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I agree with you, however, this is sout=
h Florida where a cool winter day is today, where the temperature is curren=
tly 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.=
=C2=A0 Great for a day sail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour.=
=C2=A0 However, it does make driving a hot car fun. There is not enough coo=
ling capacity in the stock radiator to handle hot climates and have to stop=
 and go because the temperature does not go down only up.=C2=A0 So the next=
 step is to re-core the radiator.=C2=A0 The local radiator guy knows the pr=
oblem and for $500 will provide new core using the old tanks which will giv=
e at least 50% more cooling capacity.=C2=A0 This is a SKI purchase.=C2=A0 S=
pend the Kids Inheritance.=C2=A0 Then I will think about wrapping the exhau=
st manifolds and headers to stop vapor lock.</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> =C2=A0</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">What do you think about Push and Pull?=
=C2=A0 Take off the engine fan?</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> =C2=A0</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">By the way, I know the engine machine s=
hop boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the engine during his machining o=
f the engine to bring it up to specifications.=C2=A0 He knows what to do.=
=C2=A0 The only modification is the 20 over pistons.=C2=A0 </span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> =C2=A0</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a st=
ock radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> =C2=A0</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Bob </span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> =C2=A0</span></div>



<div>

<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">

<div><b>From:</b> Perry &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">healeyguy@aol.com</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Robert Begani &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes=
 to theexisting radiator</div>

</div>

</div>



<div> =C2=A0</div>



<div>Bob</div>



<div>With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car =
should be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There i=
s something else amiss in the equation. </div>



<div>Perry</div>



<div> =C2=A0</div>



<div>Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://go.micros=
oft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10<=
/div>



<div> =C2=A0</div>



<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">

<div><b>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rfbegan=
i@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Robert Begani</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.=
com" target=3D"_blank">&#39;Perry&#39;</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes=
 to theexisting radiator</div>

</div>



<div> =C2=A0</div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Hi Perry:</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> =C2=A0</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I do not remember the CFM, however, it =
is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the radi=
ator.=C2=A0 As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compartment=
 at low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade f=
an on the engine.=C2=A0 As I was searching overheating problems, one refere=
nce indicated that is not recommended as they act against each other.</span=
></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> =C2=A0</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Bob</span></div>



<div> =C2=A0</div>

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