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Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50;
still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from
before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange
twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the
shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either. I haven't seen it on
any parts house shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for
free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.
Bob
On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks all.As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
> shared by the list. What triggered my question on oil and oil
> additives was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that
> did not display the usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades
> I have used that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the
> climate, etc. However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would
> find another oil. I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell
> having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it
> no longer cleared some California rule changes. I wondered it this
> happened to Red Line.
>
> So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response
> sent one to our Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to
> respond. While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
> response did come. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU
> 11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat
> tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm
> phosphorus.
>
> As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half
> bottle is enough to add to a conventional oil.It also has bit of
> sulfur, 16.6 grams.I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could
> result in too much.I am just not inclined to experiment.
>
> The 3000â??s ownerâ??s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even for
> tropical heat.However, the â??Work shop Manualâ?? (the Green Book) has a
> much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights depending on
> the manufacturer.The aspect that modern oils are a bit different than
> those available when the book came out adds a bit more uncertainty.
>
> I am confident using the 10W40.I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was
> an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing
> weather.There were also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me
> to Red Lineâ??s 10W40.The oil pressure is proper, so I donâ??t see an
> upside for me to use a heavier oil.
>
> Many thanks to the folks who responded.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1
20W-50; still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I
bought from before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has
some strange twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to
pull it off the shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either.Â
I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as
Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via
Healeys wrote:<br>
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Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">Thanks
all.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>As is
usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
shared by the list. <span style="mso-spacerun:
yes;">Â </span>What
triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the
observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that
did not display the usual statement that it contains
ZDDP. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>For
decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil
pressure, suites the climate, etc. <span
style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>However, if Red
Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil.
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>I also
recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to
find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed
that it no longer cleared some California rule
changes. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>I
wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;
line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman';">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;
line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">So,
I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a
rapid response sent one to our Healey group. <span
style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>The Healey group
was much faster to respond. <span
style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>While most
business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
response did come. <span style="mso-spacerun:
yes;">Â </span>The
assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404)
contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin
Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and
more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.<br
style="mso-special-character: line-break;">
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;">
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;
line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman';">As to their break in additive, their Web site
indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a
conventional oil.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>It
also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>I have to
wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too
much.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>I am
just not inclined to experiment.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;
line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman';">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;
line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">The
3000â??s ownerâ??s manual only mentions 30 weight oil,
even for tropical heat.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes;">Â </span>However, the â??Work shop Manualâ?? (the
Green Book) has a much more expansive table that
promotes a lot of weights depending on the
manufacturer.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>The
aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those
available when the book came out adds a bit more
uncertainty.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â
</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;
line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; color:
black;">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;
line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;
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Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">I
am confident using the 10W40.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>I used 10W50 in
my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was
REAL hard to start in freezing weather.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>There were also
a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red
Lineâ??s 10W40.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span>The
oil pressure is proper, so I donâ??t see an upside for
me to use a heavier oil.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;
line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;
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Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; color:
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Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">Many
thanks to the folks who responded.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Â </span></span></p>
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