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To: "John Beckett" <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>,
Subject: fire bottles
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:05:45 -0800
well since the aluminum seems to be made out of Unobtainium... I may have
to find some steel... another option.. I like Gregs suggestion of
Stainless... don't know where to find it yet.. but I will look about
today....

Keith
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> From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
> To: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Fw: another long day
> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:56 AM
> 
> Only problem with steel is it's reaction to salt. Not that alumium
doesn't
> too, but it's not as bad as that rust.
> 
> JB
> 
> At 07:53 PM 3/10/99 -0500, Chuck Rothfuss wrote:
> >Gents,
> >
> >  I've gotto make a couple observations about the use of aluminum tube
for
> >fire system plumbing.  Aluminum may be light and easy to work with, but
it's
> >also prone to being squashed.  How many times have you been working on
the
> >car when you bang things around inside your car?  Helmets, tools, heavy
fuel
> >cans, the occasional lawn chair.  Doesn't take much to smash an aluminum
> >tube enough that it wouldn't allow free halon flow. 
> >
> >  I know you can't be that concerned about weight to not go with 1/4"
steel
> >tubing, or even -4 braided steel.  Both of these are a lot better suited
to
> >the real world inside our cars.  1/4" steel tubing is cheap too at under
$20
> >for 25 feet.  
> >
> >  If you really must have 1/4" aluminum tubing I can probably find you
an
> >aircraft supplier at work tomorrow, but it will be a bit more than $20
for a
> >25' roll.  Pegasus (800-688-6946) should have all the fittings you need.
> >
> >  Hope this helps.
> >
> >Chuck "What was that noise?" Rothfuss
> >
> >
> >
> >At 01:35 PM 3/10/99 -0500, John Beckett wrote:
> >>Let us know if you find the 1/4" aluminum tube and fittings.
> >>
> >>JB
> >>
> >>At 10:58 AM 3/10/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
> >>>well if I look real close and use my imagination.... I might be
capable of
> >>>justifying a little leak in the Manifold Gasket... I hate this part...
the
> >>>guessing thing .... there was so little water in the oil that none was
> >>>standing.... just came out a little milky... I was running Kendall
which
> >>>may account for it not separating as easily... something about ash..
Hell I
> >>>don't remember what the engine builder said... but he was going to
pressure
> >>>test the block today and that should help...answer the question....
> >>>
> >>>gotta go find me some aluminum 1/4 inch tubing for the new fire
system... 
> >>>
> >>>Keith Turk 
> >>>Austin Healey 100  /  Bugeye / Box Sprite / Bonneville Land Speed
Racer
> >>>Camaro ( D Gas Altered )
> >>>
> >>>----------
> >>>> From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
> >>>> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> >>>> Subject: Re: Fw: another long day
> >>>> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:03 AM
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sorry to here about the water. The best laid plans of mice and men,
and
> >>>all
> >>>> that stuff. At least you have another motor to step up to. Maybe
you'll
> >>>get
> >>>> lucky and find a head problem. You were going to change those
anyway,
> >>>right.
> >>>> 
> >>>> JB
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> At 06:22 PM 3/9/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >yeah.. and today wasn't one I would call a record day.... found
some
> >>>water
> >>>> >in the oil of the C motor I was going to run in a couple of weeks
..
> >>>> >pulled it out to put the new heads and cam on it... damn sam....
> >>>couldn't
> >>>> >find a gasket problem... so we are going to the Local motor shop to
> >>>check
> >>>> >it out... not good...
> >>>> >I am worried about it having froze this winter... not likely but
> >>>> >possible... we don't have that many cold days here but the few we
had
> >>>could
> >>>> >have been deadly... hmmm  Oh well it doesn't really matter other
then I
> >>>had
> >>>> >this great plan put together.... now it is all up in the air... You
> >>>gotta
> >>>> >love it... 
> >>>> >
> >>>> >----------
> >>>> >> From: V4GR@aol.com
> >>>> >> To: kturk@ala.net
> >>>> >> Subject: Re: another long day
> >>>> >> Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 9:47 AM
> >>>> >> 
> >>>> >> In '78 we were running on a 103mph record or something like that.
I
> >>>had
> >>>> >my 32
> >>>> >> five window stock roof with a 270 GMC and 2 Corvair turbos.
Didn't
> >>>cost
> >>>> >much
> >>>> >> and went 158 one way. My Vega has run in BGas/Alt with a fourbbl
460
> >>>Ford
> >>>> >> (198) and a more expensive 455 Pontiac ( not mine-208 mph) and
now
> >>>with a
> >>>> >392
> >>>> >> which is given parts from a boat racer who stepped up to a KB and
swap
> >>>> >meet
> >>>> >> stuff. No new parts and I expect it might run around 200. No
records
> >>>> >there.
> >>>> >> Jack Costallas liner is so slick that I think my Nissan V6 in his
car
> >>>> >should
> >>>> >> be ok. We are hoping for 260 on a 220 record. We'll see. He went
332
> >>>with
> >>>> >a
> >>>> >> 302 sbc using a 4bbl manifold and 4 Quadjet secondary butterflies
for
> >>>his
> >>>> >own
> >>>> >> injectors.
> >>>> >> We all plan this so well we should be able to phone in results,
and
> >>>BNI
> >>>> >mail
> >>>> >> out trophies. But no, we have to see what happens on the salt.   
    
> >>> 
> >>>> >See
> >>>> >> you there              Rich Fox
> >>>> >
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> 

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