Having the live starter can be handy. Once or twice nudging it while
in gear helped walk my old man's truck out of some really bad mud
when these were newtrucks. With the starter only, there wasn't enough
torque to spin the rear wheels.
Hard on starters and batteries, but it worked.
Bruce K
Mt. Iron, MN
At Monday, 10 March 2003, you wrote:
>Whether you can use the floor starter or not depends on how much
of purist
>you want to be. Although you cannot retain the floor starter as it was
>back in the day, there should be no reason why you cannot rig an
electrical
>switch to make the foot starter work like the START position on modern
>ignitions switches. It's just a matter of knowing what you are
doing with
>electricity.
>
>For example, on my current daily driver the ignition switch quit
working
>and so I replaced the switch to no effect. Next I replaced the tumbler
>mechanism to no effect. Next I replaced the neutral safety switch
to no
>effect. As this is an old (or new depending on your point of view
- 1989)
>ford that I do not plan to keep I was reluctant to take it to a
shop and
>pay out even more money so I rigged a switch under the dash to run
power to
>the starter relay. Whether the key is on or not or the transmission
is in
>gear or not that switch will turn the starter. Of course you have
to have
>the key in the ON position for the motor to actually start. I don't
have
>any of the modern safety features to keep the truck from lurching
forward
>but it has worked fine for a couple of years now. You could do
something
>similar for the floor starter, or if you are smarter than I am you
could
>probably do it right.
>
>BobK
>51 3100~3600 5-window (in pieces)
>Arnaudville, LA
>
> GremlinGTs@aol.com
>
> Sent by: To: oletrucks@autox.
>team.net
> owner-oletrucks@aut cc:
>
> ox.team.net Subject: [oletrucks]
>Re: why you can't keep the floor
> starter...
>
> 03/09/03 04:28 PM
>
> Please respond to
>
> GremlinGTs
>
><< Too bad you can't keep the floor starter; I still don't understand
why
> not. Is it because the V8 starter uses a cylinoid and the 6 doesn't?
I
> have a hole in the floor board I need to plug one of these days....
> Ed Miller >>
>
> The reason is, the starter on the 6-cylinder is on the side
of the 6
>cylinder motor with no obstruction straight up ( hence Straight 6 ),
>whereas
>on the V-8, you have an overhanging block with 4 pistons ( V-shape vs.
>Straight ), so there's no way the starter can be mounted high up
enough to
>use the original location, the starter is now lower, almost under the
>motor.
>The starter mounts to the block, NOT to the transmission, so due
to that
>change, there is no physical way the floor starter can be used again,
as
>the
>V-8 starter is physically lower down now. The 6 starter uses the floor
>pedal
>as the solenoid, true, but due to the lower mounting position, none
of the
>hardware will reach the hole, even if the 6 starter is capable of
fitting a
>
>V-8 block. The 6 starter is straight up and down, whereas I think
the V-8
>starter has the solenoid cocked over to the side a bit to clear the
>overhanging cylinder wall of the block, so the foot mechanism might be
>tilted
>off to one side, even if you could mount it to a V-8 starter.
> That's my assessment and I'm stickin' to it. :)
>
>Jerry in Virginia
>oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
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