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Re: [oletrucks] Abandoned, my foot.

To: lloydt@Colorado.EDU, oletrucks@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Abandoned, my foot.
From: "Carl & Becky Ham" <the_hams@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:18:04 -0500
My 2 cents.  As one oletrucker to another, I wish you luck with your 
problem.  I'm not praising or criticizing you, but you need to know there 
are always two sides to the coin.

While it sounds like there are many in your neighborhood that want to park 
their vehicles on the street (regardless of the condition), if you leave 
your truck parked on the street or in your driveway for some time with no 
apparent activity (no matter how you view your truck), you may be just as 
much a contributor to the problem as they are.  Having a classic or antique 
vehicle shouldn't give you any more rights than anyone else.

I understand money may be a problem (you mentioned you haven't run the truck 
while figuring-out a problem).  Can't you work out a deal with your roommate 
to let you park in the garage?  Or could you find a friend or relative 
willing to let you store your vehicle with them (assuming the same 'laws' 
don't apply where they live).  Is there a garage, body shop, car dealer or 
etc. close-by that would let you keep your truck there?  Some of these 
places have fenced and lighted lots that may be safer than leaving your 
truck to the mercy of vandals while sitting on the street.

Communities continue to wrestle with the issues of 
"abandoned/classic/antique" vehicles.  Everyone's observation of these 
vehicles varies and no matter how you may view your truck, others may not 
share your opinion.

I assume you chose where you live for a reason.  Keep in mind that as a 
resident you have a social responsibility to that neighborhood or community 
to abide by their laws or ordinances.

I hope you take this message in the spirit it was intended and that it helps 
you discover some opportunities to make the best of an apparent 'bad' 
situation.  Again, Good Luck!!

Carl Ham
'56 Chevy TF Stepside
Pontiac, IL

>From: tim <lloydt@colorado.edu>
>Reply-To: tim <lloydt@colorado.edu>
>To: Ole Truckers <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>Subject: [oletrucks] Abandoned, my foot.
>Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:28:02 -0600
>(Resent from a few days ago due to some email problems)
>While getting into my car (which I park on the street by one side of my
>house) this morning, I noticed a Boulder County deputy sticking big
>fluorescent orange "abandoned vehicle" warning stickers on some of the
>vehicles on the same street where I park my car. Now, I live on the
>corner of a short cul-de-sac and one of the main roads in my
>subdivision. On this main road, several vehicles are parked that would
>be considered "abandoned," including a camper trailer, a few vehicles
>for sale by owner, an obviously abandoned Dodge convertible with its
>windows rolled down and a busted rear window, and a trailer for my
>neighbor's race car of some sort. This last vehicle, a
>partially-assembled race car that my neighbor works on about every
>other weekend, was unlucky enough to have the abandoned sticker stuck
>to its paint job, as it has no windows.
>The deputy explained that one neighbor (the owner of the race car, I
>believe) complained about some abandoned vehicles on the road, and then
>another neighbor (the owner of another of the "abandoned" vehicles)
>complained about the race car trailer, so he was just putting warnings
>on every vehicle on the street that hadn't moved in the past 72 hours.
>I pointed out Peanut to him, which has been parked in the cul-de-sac
>for some time now since I ran out of money to figure out the
>coolant-in-the-oil issue, and he said that that was one of the vehicles
>that had been complained about! The deputy did say that he wouldn't
>put a sticker on Peanut, but to consider myself warned. I explained to
>him about my situation, and how annoying it is to have to move a
>non-functional vehicle that's being worked on, and he seemed to
>understand, telling me that it just has to move a few feet every 72
>Now this is a very annoying law that I'm sure other old-truckers
>also have to deal with -- particularly since it's not actively
>enforced, just when a neighbor complains. Peanut had been parked just
>a little farther into the cul-de-sac for several months while I was
>working on the fuel system, and nobody complained then. Does anyone in
>Colorado know if this is a Boulder County law, or a state law? I plan
>to petition the appropriate governing body about this.
>In the meantime, I guess I'll roll Peanut up the hill toward my house a
>whole car length, and measure my driveway to see if she can safely park
>on one side of the driveway while still allowing room for my roommate's
>Lotus to get into the garage (not likely). Bah.
>(Follow-up:  looks like it was a neighbor of mine generally known to be a 
>nuisance who filed the final complaint.  He has multiple vehicles parked 
>around the neighborhood, but the prime offender was a camper/trailer that 
>was up on blocks and dangerous considering the kids that walk to school 
>past it every day.)
>Tim Lloyd, lloydt@colorado.edu
>1954 Chevy 3100 Pickup "Peanut"
>1954 Chevy 3100 Panel "Being paid for"
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