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Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines

To: "Jim Wilkerson" <Jim.Wilkerson@sas.com>, <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines
From: "K. M. Lehmann" <klehmann@bentonrea.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:23:47 -0800
I don't think so, I have been working SB Chevs since I bought one in 1955,
also raced for several years, I now own 5 of them and I have yet to shim a
starter.
Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Wilkerson" <Jim.Wilkerson@sas.com>
To: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines


> Do all GM starters need to be shimmed?  I have a 2000 GM Crate truck
engine (Vortec 5.7L). There were no shims or any mention of shims in the
starter box or instructions.
>
> Thanks, Jim W.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Hanberg [mailto:steve@oldsub.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:53 AM
> To: Carl & Becky Ham; 64bowtie@quik.com; Mask1966@aol.com;
60schevy@topica.com; oletrucks@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines
>
>
> Sometime in the last year there was a magazine article on how to adjust GM
starters.  It described the noise you might here, and the said what side of
the starter to shim.  I don't recall the title or month, but you might dig
through your local library looking at pickup and rod type magazines and I'm
sure you'll fine it.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl & Becky Ham" <the_hams@hotmail.com>
> To: <64bowtie@quik.com>; <Mask1966@aol.com>; <60schevy@topica.com>;
<oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims installation for GM engines
>
>
> Mike:
> With all due respect to Devin's reply, I would not use trial and error to
install your starter.  You may damage the starter bendix gear and/or the
teeth on the flywheel/flexplate.
>
> Most replacement starters for GM engines come with a shim package.
Included in the shim package is a small diameter rod to measure the distance
between the starter bendix shaft and the flywheel/flexplate.  If you don't
have one, go to a local FLAPS, they usually have extras on hand.  Some shim
kits come with short and long shims for positioning the starter.  Short
shims to add clearance on one side only, long shims to add clearance for the
whole starter (both sides).
>
> With the starter bolted in place (no shims), slide the rod between the
bendix shaft (not the bendix gear with the teeth) and the flexplate teeth.
Use your judgement, if the pin appears too sloppy, loosen the starter and
slide shims under the outside (closest to the framerail) bolt.  This will
'tilt' the starter closer to the flexplate.  Retighten and recheck until
you're satisfied with the clearance.
>
> Conversely, if you can't get the rod between the bendix shaft and
flexplate, loosen the bolt closest to the engine block and add shims to this
side (it will 'tilt' the starter away from the flexplate).  Or you may need
to add a long shim to position the starter evenly.  Repeat as above until
you're happy with the clearance.
>
> Doing this will ensure the bendix gear engages properly and doesn't damage
the opposing teeth on the flexplate.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Carl Ham
> '56 Chevy TF Stepside
> Pontiac, IL
>
> >From: "Devin Timmons" <64bowtie@quik.com>
> >Reply-To: "Devin Timmons" <64bowtie@quik.com>
> >To: <Mask1966@aol.com>, <60schevy@topica.com>,
> ><oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Starter Shims?
> >Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:50:17 -0800
> >
> >Mike-  Not all Chevys require shims with their starters.  I put the
> >starter in, see if it grinds, and then start shimming from there, trial
> >and error. Start with thin ones and only go as thick as necessary.
> >
> >Devin
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <Mask1966@aol.com>
> >To: <60schevy@topica.com>; <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 6:36 PM
> >Subject: [oletrucks] Starter Shims?
> >
> >
> > > Hey V8 guys, how do I know how many shims to install with my 305
> >starter?
> >I
> > > know there is some measurement to be made, but where and how much?
> >Help,
> >the
> > > motor goes in tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Mike Klepp
> > > '48 3100 5 window
> > > '65 C-10 stepside
> > > Wichita Falls, TX
> > > oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
> > > 1959
> >oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959
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