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Re: exhaust pipes - long and heated!

To: "Fred Griffiths" <griffco@mail.cadvision.com>, <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: exhaust pipes - long and heated!
From: "Patrick Bowen" <pabowen@mediaone.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:38:25 -0400
What part did not fit.  Last time I hade an entire custom exhaust installed
on a car it cost me $68 on a 88 s-10.  The secret here is to go to a shop
that lists themselves as a "Custom Muffler" shop.  These are the places
where all they do is bend pipe, and use no factory prebent (READ OVER
PRICED) pipes.  They tend to be a whole lot cheaper.  I avoid all franchises
for this type of work.

Patrick Bowen
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Griffiths <griffco@mail.cadvision.com>
To: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 6:04 PM
Subject: exhaust pipes - long and heated!


>
> Just had a verbal run-in with a local muffler shop, with the result I'll
> be getting my $75 plus taxes back on Friday.
>
> The story goes: I had the exhaust off my '71 MK IV to repair the diff.
> I thought "while I'm at it, I'll take this to a muffler shop and see if
> they can make 2, one for the MK IV, and one for the 1500 I'm building.
> Save a second trip.'
>
> So I went to a shop, asked if they could supply new pipes.  Catalogue
> says Not Available.  OK, he says, no problem, using yours as a pattern,
> I'll make you two pipes for $75 each.  He assured me they'd fit.   He
> assured me several times they'd fit.
>
> So I left the pipe, he was to have them done in 4 hours.  One day leter
> I went back and he was just finishing up!  I paid for them and left. Oh
> did say he assured me they'd fit?
>
> Tried all weekend to get it to fit, so went back with muffler and both
> pipes and asked him to do it.  He cut it, welded it, did whatever but
> got it to fit, installed it and charged me $75 (plus taxes of course).
> I had expected he'd take the opportunity to make both fit at the same
> time, but no, as he said "it ain't gonna happen".
>
> I was pretty upset, but paid up.  I find it best to go home, cool off
> and put details in writing then confront them when calm.
>
> So today I asked what he could do about it - offering him 4 options.
> His reply was he'd 'charge me the same to install the other one too".
> He didn't seem to differentiate between "make it fit' and install it.
> So I opted to get a refund which he agreed to.
>
> Now looking in catalogues I find Moss sells a Mk IV pipe (pn862-100) for
> $42.75.  VicBrit sells the same piece(pn6-026) for $74.94 list and
> $59.95 on sale.
>
> Any ideas why so cheap?  Are they boltable fit?  Any experiences with
> either?
>
> I won't be going back to this character, so checked with another shop
> and they priced it at about $68 to make a pipe.  I'd install.  He also
> assured me it would fit!
>
> Also, original pipe diameter is shown as 1 5/8".  But modern pipe here
> is only available in 1 3/4".  That means the muffler doesn't fit cause
> its made for 1 5/8".
>
> Appreciate advice,
> Cheers, Fred
>
>
> --
> Fred & Wendy Griffiths,
> Calgary, Canada
> http://www.cadvision.com/griffco/index.htm
> mailto: griffco@cadvision.com
>
>



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