I fully agree with you. I think what started out as a very 'gallant' gesture,
being looked at by others as some kind of conspiracy to depress prices on ebay.
I myself have on occasion won bids on items I really didn't 'need to have', and
if I would have known someone who really needed it, I would be more than happy
to have stepped aside. On the other side of the coin, I have been out-bid on
items that I really did need, only to see them 'recycled' on ebay at a much
higher price by someone trying to make a quick profit (not necessarily spriget
stuff, and I don't know of anyone on this list),but boy that irks me. In any
case, I still think Chucks original message was great gesture to other members
of this list, and I salute him :-)
Bryan Vandiver (59-bugeye)
San Jose CA,
Ebay id (bryanv)
>To: "Stefan Roundy" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>
>Subject: RE: E-bay
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>I think you are taking this waaaaayyyyy to seriously. Nobody is trying to
>fix bids or start a spridget cartel on ebay. No one suggested "pressuring"
>members to stay away either. The original suggestion was about common
>courtesy and stepping aside when your friend has bid on something that they
>may need. That's what gentlemen do. Was a time when people were like that,
>but you don't see too much of that now in the days of too many lawyers and
>too much litigation.....
>People on this list give parts and their time and advice to each other for
>free. I've had people do that for me. I've had people come over to my
>driveway to help me rebuild an engine or lend me tools that I didn't have. I
>believe the original suggestion was made in this spirit. All we were saying
>was; if you see your friend bidding on something you may be interested in,
>think twice before just impulsively jumping in. At real auctions you can see
>the bidders' faces and you might step aside if your mate is bidding on
>something. Why should this be any different?
>Btw, I buy and sell a lot of stuff on ebay, so I feel I may have a little
>better grasp on this than someone who by their own admission has only
>watched from the sidelines.
>Relax, there are certainly more important things in life.
>[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of Stefan Roundy
>Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 2:35 PM
>Subject: Re: E-bay
>I feel the same way. I wonder if these folks will be so keen to keep the
>bidders away when it is their item they are trying to sell? Maybe they
>should start another list of Spridget members who would bid against each
>other, but only when another enthusiast has placed a spare part up for
>auction. When large corporations get caught fixing bids, someone usually
>goes to jail. I've never sold anything on E-bay and don't know if I ever
>will, but should the opportunity ever arise it would be nice to know that
>there isn't a club with hundreds of members either asking, or pressuring
>other members to keep away. What's wrong with a free market...let the chips
>fall where they may. If someone wants to pay $100 for a $20 part, who
>cares??? If someone needs something for their car and can't afford what
>others are bidding, let him post his request on a bulletin board, or ask
>those on this list for a reasonable example. It surely isn't right to
>interfere with commerce in order to try to "steal" the part. I'd be
>interested to hear if others feel my comments are out of line.
>From: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>To: Brad Fornal <email@example.com>
>Cc: David Ramsey <firstname.lastname@example.org>; email@example.com
>Date: 10 December, 1999 10:13 AM
>Subject: Re: E-bay
>>I have not responded to this thread (ugghh) for several reasons:
>>1) If I don't really want something, I don't bid on it in the first place.
>>2) I view this as a form of bid manipulation.
>>3) The items are going to be bid to their max anyway, regardless of whether
>or not some Spridget Listers exchange secret handshakes. There ARE other
>registered ebay users not on this list just as interested in these items.
>>Brad Fornal wrote:
>>> Well mine is Toyman*htcomp. I have noticed that Jay has not offered up
>his ebay name, or maybe I missed it. Must be a privacy thing :-)
>>> David Ramsey wrote:
>>> > Here I was just getting ready to put my rebuilt Lucas tach-drive
>generator with the tach drive on E-bay so I could send me and my sprite to
>Hawaii and retire. If anybody wants it I'll let it go for $5000, but I was
>hoping to get really big bucks for it. As to my bidding name "I forget".
>>> > Crash