The whiners haven't changed from the conscientious objectors from
the past. Next real war (with conscription) I say those who can't
kill for whatever reason, be parachuted behind enemy lines to
convert the other side's civilians. Everybody happy?
Hate to do this but the whiner logic runs like this -
1) We have to treat all detainees as POW's under the Geneva
convention, until they are determined by due process to be illegal
combatants.
2) If we don't demand Geneva rules then how can we morally ask the
same for US prisoners.
As usual the logic is flawed -
1a) as in civilian jurisprudence we often hold suspects long
before they are convicted.
1b) the Geneva convention is outdated, and has never been fully
enforced (it requires a prisoner canteen to be set up with canteen
profits going to the prisoners, it requires POWs to have the same
accommodation as your own soldiers etc.
1(c) when last did hear these whiners bitching about the North
Vietnamese or W.W.II Japanese atrocities?
2) If US/CDN citizens (let alone mercenaries based in the
US/Canada) blew up anybody's 3000 innocents I would be the first
volunteer that they be put on display in public zoos.
Mike L
60A,67E,59Bug
----- Original Message -----
From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
To: Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob@webtv.net>
Cc: Brent Wolf <wolfbj@prodigy.net>; Spridgets
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: January 24, 2002 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Be An American (No LBC)
> I agree completely!! Especially after seeing on the news that
there are folks
> that are complaining about the treatment of P.O.W.'s in other
countries. These
> "whiners" have obviously already forgotten one simple fact, WE
ARE AT WAR!!
> P.O.W. do not have the rights that normal U.S. citizens have. It
is infuriating
> to me that the same folks that used our leniency against us,
i.e. terrorism on
> our lax airplane security, are now being offered even more of
same, by "virtue"
> (I use that word sarcastically) of our bleeding heart liberals
that can't seem to
> remember why those jerks ended up in Cuba to start with. If, by
some chance,
> there is a lister that thinks that these folks are being treated
unfairly. THEY
> ARE NOT U.S. CITIZENS, THEY ARE NOT IN THE U.S..................
>
> "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote:
>
> > "The downfall of the United States will
> > be the mongeralization of it's race";
> > Adolph Hitler, circa 1940.
> >
> > I do not believe this but, I do believe we
> > (generally) have become complacent
> > in forgetting we have separated, to a greater extent than
others,
> > religion and
> > state and in so doing, have created
> > natural enemies in the form of those
> > "left behind" in this respect.
> >
> > "They" will seize upon whatever excuse
> > they can find to make sure we pay for
> > our "sin". "They" identify themselves by
> > "blindsiding" unarmed civilians in "acts
> > of war"; aka "terrorism".
> >
> > We have let such people into our
> > country and have conferred the rights
> > of citizenship upon them, accordingly,
> > whether they be citizens or not.
> >
> > This is our "arrogance"; this arrogance
> > is our real sin, me thinks! We fail to
> > understand where others are in "their
> > growth" (or lack of it, as the case may
> > be).
> >
> > As in your personal life, extending
> > friendship and humanity to all whom you
> > meet, without educated "selectivity", can be a real
life-threatening
> > affair.
> >
> > There are people over here (and over there) who will take you
for
> > everything you
> > have, justifying their "piracy" with any excuse you are stupid
enough to
> > "buy",
> > inclusive of "guilt".
> >
> > So it is with international affairs, as well.
> >
> > I wish others no harm at all, whether they
> > be from "here" or "over there".
> >
> > We have many over here who are poor
> > and homeless and others who may become so caused indirectly by
recent
> > acts of the "they".
> >
> > How much are we spending "over there"
> > that could better be spent "over here"
> > helping "our own" in terms of "rebuilding".
> >
> > I am in no hurry to leave this planet but
> > when the time comes due to natural
> > causes, I am ready. I have had enough
> > of "them", and I have also had my fill
> > of some of "us", also.
> >
> > We have been "Trojan horsed" and
> > "they" (over there) have done THE "guilt trip" of all time on
some of
> > us, to be sure.
> > The "some" are generally called "liberals",
> > who (me thinks) are academically
> > educated beyond their world experience
> > level to the extent they've lost their
> > world "street smarts".
> >
> > Of course, this is just my opinion; I could
> > be wrong!
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