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Re: The Gun debate no LBC (long)

To: "Spridgets" <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: The Gun debate no LBC (long)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 06:48:02 -0500
References: <00cc01c29506$41bddee0$2e97fea9@aoldsl.net>
Dave,

I haven't read the whole thing yet, but #2 made me LOL.  I'll read the rest
later, after work.

But, with tongue planted firmly in cheek, the answer to #2 could be:
'skiing', especially if it involves USian politicans.  : )

Robert D.

----- Original Message -----
From "David Riker" <davriker at pacbell.net>
> My opinion on guns:
>
> 1.  Guns are designed to kill. It's that simple.
> 2.  There is no such thing as a sporting gun.  What kind of sport results
in
> death?
> 3.  Target practice isn't a sport either.  It is killing practice.  That's
> why many targets are the silhouette of a human.  Like practicing your aim?
> Take up darts.
> 4.  Hunting isn't a sport.  In a true sport there is an equal chance that
> either side can win or loose, and awake tomorrow to play again.  Since the
> animal always looses, I doubt he would find the act of being hunted
> "sporting".   Hunting for food also is not a reason to own a gun.  Last
time
> I was at the grocery store, there was no shortage of meat.  If it were a
> good reason to own a gun, we should issue one gun to each homeless person
so
> they could feed themselves.  Hunting doesn't get you closer to nature, it
> kills a part of it.  If you want to get closer to nature, take the scope,
> and leave the rifle at home.  Get up close and yell "BANG"  and watch
Bambi
> run away.  If you had a gun, you probably would have missed anyway.  Same
> end result.  If you miss walking away from the hunt with something to show
> for it, take a camera, and hang an 8x10 on the wall instead of a set of
> horns.  Hunting as population management is flawed.  Animals can be
trapped,
> and euthanized humanely.
> 5.  Guns are useless as self defense.  If the criminal has one the only
> thing you can accomplish is a stalemate.  Usually the stalemate results in
> your death.
> 6.  The slippery slope argument between the outlaw of spidgets, corvairs,
> and guns is flawed.  The only persons killed in a spridget crash due to
the
> design of the car is the driver and willing passenger "if" an accident
> occurs.  Most the time, guns kill the other guy.  I do oppose helmet laws
on
> motorcycle riders because I do see a similarity between a motorcycle rider
> being forced against his will to wear a helmet, and the eventuality of a
> spridget driver being forced to wear a helmet.
> 7.  You are probably right that the outlaw of guns won't reduce crime, it
> will only reduce the number of 15 year olds mowing down their classmates,
> curious children blowing their brains out and stuff like that.
> 8.  I actually support everyone's right to own and collect guns.  I simply
> believe that  ammunition and reloading equipment should be outlawed.
> David Riker
> 63 Falcon
> 70 Torino
> 74 Midget
> http://home.pacbell.net/davriker/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>
> To: "Mike Gigante" <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
> Cc: <Ankitterer@aol.com>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:27 AM
> Subject: NOW LBC CONTENT, was: The Gun debate
>
> > OK, lets move our focus just a tad.
> > Lets say the here in the U.S., Green Party Candidate Ralph Nader gets
> elected
> > Pres.
> > (this is an if!!) I am sure other countries have similar persons seeking
> power.
> > The new Pres says, "Ok, years ago I felt that the Corvair and the
Spridget
> were
> > unsafe, so I now have the opportunity to make our great land safer for
> those to
> > stupid to drive safely. ALL owners of Spridgets and Corvairs have till
> July 1st
> > to turn their car and parts over to the government for the proper
disposal
> of
> > these "Unsafe" vehicles.
> > How many of you would line up and give away your car? They are unsafe,
you
> could
> > DIE in these things, you have no air bags, some of the cars have a SPEAR
> on the
> > hood/bonnet for gods sake. No ABS brakes. You are so low, you go under
> many of
> > the safety devices on the big trucks. Do you not realize that a couple
of
> idiots
> > buying a car like ours, and having a horrendous accident could indeed
> create a
> > similar scenario??

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