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Re: [Spridgets] VIN number issue

To: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VIN number issue
From: George Marinos via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 23:18:20 -0400
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Chassis number is also found written in crayon on the back side of the dash.=

George

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 23, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
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> Well Bob, sounds like something got mixed up somewhere.  First off there w=
ere a little less than 49,000 Bugeyes made and there were no '61's, unless y=
ou count the CKD Australian and Italian cars.  The last fully assembled Buge=
ye was built in November 1960.  However, the car in question could have been=
 built earlier and sold and titled in 1961.
>=20
> The last car with a 4 digit chassis number would have been built very earl=
y in 1959.  My Bugeye was built in May 1959 and has a chassis number of 15,X=
XX.  =20
>=20
> On a Bugeye the only other place where the true chassis number would appea=
r is in crayon on the underside of the bonnet and under the hardura cover ov=
er the rear axle. Probably not still there today.   There is a body number t=
ag on the right side door pillar that can be used by the British Motor Herit=
age people to give you the factory build record information for the car.  Bu=
t it costs about $75.  There is also a number tag on the left hand door pill=
ar, but it is not in the factory build records. =20
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> Rick
> '59 & '61 Sprites=20
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> Sent from my keyboard
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>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Bob Spruck via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
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>> On a Bugeye I am interested in, I have discovered an apparent anomaly in t=
he year and VIN. The car has no VIN plate but is considered to be a 1961 Mk1=
 and has been registered in two states as such. However, the VIN is listed o=
n both registrations as AN5L xxxx. Since they made, what, 59,000 Bugeyes and=
 ended in 1961, a car considered a '61 should have a five digit number, some=
where approaching 59,000. If the four digit number is correct, it should be,=
 I expect, maybe a '59.=20
>>=20
>> Is there any other place that the VIN appears? Or any other way of determ=
ining the true VIN number or true year of manufacture?
>>=20
>> Perhaps I should just leave well enough alone?
>>=20
>> Bob Spruck
>> Sharpsburg, GA=20
>>=20
>> '72 Midget
>> '67 Midget Vintage Racer
>> Maybe a '59 or '61 Bugeye
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Chassis number is also found written i=
n crayon on the back side of the dash.</div><div>George<br><br>Sent from my i=
Pad</div><div><br>On Mar 23, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"cont=
ent-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>Well Bob, sounds like s=
omething got mixed up somewhere. &nbsp;First off there were a little less th=
an 49,000 Bugeyes made and there were no '61's, unless you count the CKD Aus=
tralian and Italian cars. &nbsp;The last fully assembled Bugeye was built in=
 November 1960. &nbsp;However, the car in question could have been built ear=
lier and sold and titled in 1961.</div><div><br></div><div>The last car with=
 a 4 digit chassis number would have been built very early in 1959. &nbsp;My=
 Bugeye was built in May 1959 and has a chassis number of 15,XXX. &nbsp;&nbs=
p;</div><div><br></div><div>On a Bugeye the only other place where the true c=
hassis number would appear is in crayon on the underside of the bonnet and u=
nder the hardura cover over the rear axle. Probably not still there today. &=
nbsp; There is a body number tag on the right side door pillar that can be u=
sed by the British Motor Heritage people to give you the factory build recor=
d information for the car. &nbsp;But it costs about $75. &nbsp;There is also=
 a number tag on the left hand door pillar, but it is not in the factory bui=
ld records. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div><div>'59 &amp; '61 Spr=
ites&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:=
30 PM, Bob Spruck via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.n=
et">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div>
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    <meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"=
>
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    <font size=3D"+1"><font face=3D"Arial">On a Bugeye I am interested in, I=

        have discovered an apparent anomaly in the year and VIN. The car
        has no VIN plate but is considered to be a 1961 Mk1 and has been
        registered in two states as such. However, the VIN is listed on
        both registrations as AN5L xxxx. Since they made, what, 59,000
        Bugeyes and ended in 1961, a car considered a '61 should have a
        five digit number, somewhere approaching 59,000. If the four
        digit number is correct, it should be, I expect, maybe a '59. <br>
        <br>
        Is there any other place that the VIN appears? Or any other way
        of determining the true VIN number or true year of manufacture?<br>
        <br>
        Perhaps I should just leave well enough alone?<br>
        <br>
        Bob Spruck<br>
        Sharpsburg, GA <br>
        <br>
        '72 Midget<br>
        '67 Midget Vintage Racer<br>
        Maybe a '59 or '61 Bugeye<br>
        <br>
      </font></font>
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