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Re: [TR] TR6 steel wheels

To: "pethier@isd.net" <pethier@isd.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 steel wheels
From: Bob Westerdale <Bob.Westerdale@ametek.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:07:20 -0500
FWIW Dept.:
        Of course having straight/true wheels is mandatory for shimmy-less 
motoring, but I'd also recommend taking a good look at the wheels after 
the tires are on.....  Mount 'em on the car and gently spin them to check 
the 'roundness' of the tire/tread.  Many tires ( especially the cheap-o's) 
will show noticeable out-of-true tendencies, sometimes side to side, other 
times as a vertical 'hop', even on perfectly straight rims..   In neither 
case will balancing totally resolve the non-symetrical faults;  even if 
the  spin balancer says the wheel is perfectly balanced.   I had a set of 
cheepie Vredstiens on an old BMW years ago that, although perfectly 
balanced, were not particularly 'round'.   I took it to an old front end 
shop in Savannah GA,  and the geezer told me he needed to true the 
tires.......  I thought he was trying to rip off a naive Yankee ( me) but 
I compared the cost of having my upper dental fillings reinstalled ( owing 
to the severe shimmy) versus about $30 to true and balance all 4 wheels. ( 
this was about 25 years ago.)  They jacked up the car  and then used a 
really nasty motor driven  abrasive drum on each tire,  grinding off the 
high spots on the rubber as a second motor slowly turned the wheel.   Of 
course you lose maximum tire life,  but I was ready to throw the buggers 
out anyway.  Next, he dragged out an old stroboscope and a vibration 
pickup that he magnetically coupled to the suspension.  The pickup fired 
the strobe as the wheel was spun up ( still on the car..) and a piece of 
masking tape provided a reference spot to help when attaching the weights 
to the rim.   After about 2 iterations,    the strobe wouldn't fire any 
more and the geezer pronounced the wheel balanced.   He proceeded around 
the car  as I anticipated the loss of my hard-earned money.    I paid the 
gent and got back on the highway and proceeded to break the speed limit 
with wild abandon.
The car never felt better,  "totally" vibration free,   and owing to the 
wonderfully flat speedways ( uhh... highways)  I was able to renew my ( 
not so) pleasant relationship with the GA highway patrol.  That was the 
more expensive part of the day's lesson! 
        Snap-On used to make an on-car balancer, but it required the 
removal of the hub caps and didn't accommodate wire wheels at all.  I'm 
struggling to remember the name of the Co. that made this stroboscopic 
balancer.... ( I  believe there are several , though)  it wasn't Coates, 
Hunter, uh.....  it might have been Alemite,,,, perhaps.....
        So the final word is make sure the tire is round before you bother 
trying to balance it.....

Soap Box safely stowed..

Bob Westerdale
59 3A  TS36967
 
 







> A good way to check wheels for warpage is to mount them on
> a lathe and  rotate them with a dial indicator gauge
> riding along the bead. 

Since most of us don't have a lathe with a 16-inch throw
lying around the shop, bolting the wheel to the front of a
handy Triumph and giving it a spin seems to work fine.



Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA
1962 TR4 CT2846L, 1992 Saturn SL2, 1993 Suburban, 1994 Miata
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