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Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process

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Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 10:39:53 +0000
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Oertwig Stephen <oertwig@mac.com>
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He did. Mostly they were former prewar employees who were guaranteed a job a=
t Standard Motor Co if they survived the war. Black also instructed Personne=
l Dept that whatever job they were offered that their salaries were to be at=
 the very summit for that job grade plus 15% - in perpetuity until they eith=
er retired or died in service. I based the conversation of yesterday on two o=
f those men who did that job. Both had serious war wounds but indomitable sp=
irits and humour.

JM

> On 8 Jan 2026, at 04:31, bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
> John,
> Din=E2=80=99t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission pla=
tes. =20
> Bill
>=20
> =E2=80=9CThe harder I work, the luckier I get=E2=80=9D  H. Ford
>=20
> On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com=
> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFNah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a T=
uesday but don=E2=80=99t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Fri=
day. Even then, count yer self lucky =E2=80=98cos you ain=E2=80=99t given us=
 an opportunity to go on strike.
> Funny sized letters and numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye glasse=
s and two left boots is back in circulation again.
>=20
> Jonmac
>=20
>> On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original on=
e so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It i=
s a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 20=
00s so the plate looks similar.
>>=20
>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbe=
rs of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of=
 different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought ma=
ybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.=20=

>>=20
>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I wo=
uld like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates=
 and body numbers.
>>=20
>> Steve
>>=20
>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrot=
e:
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)
>>> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>    (Sujit Roy)
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>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
>>> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
>>>   <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>> Message-ID: <1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>>>=20
>>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
>>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>>=20
>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.  Of course, the=
 ?3? will be wrong.
>>> Bill
>>>=20
>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?  H. Ford
>>>=20
>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> ?
>>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
>>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
>>> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
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>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Hi Sujit,
>>>>=20
>>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color cha=
nge.
>>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>>>=20
>>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running t=
he
>>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If wh=
en
>>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication o=
f a
>>>> head gasket issue.
>>>>=20
>>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFT=
F/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28I=
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y3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+=
for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=3D8-3=
>
>>>>=20
>>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>>>> store.
>>>>=20
>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>=20
>>>> JVV
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit R=
oy
>>>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>>>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>>=20
>>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test m=
y
>>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>>>>=20
>>>> Sujit
>>>>=20
>>>> --
>>>> Sujit Roy
>>>> Cupertino, California
>>>>=20
>>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">He d=
id. Mostly they were former prewar employees who were guaranteed a job at St=
andard Motor Co if they survived the war. Black also instructed Personnel De=
pt that whatever job they were offered that their salaries were to be at the=
 very summit for that job grade plus 15% - in perpetuity until they either r=
etired or died in service. I based the conversation of yesterday on two of t=
hose men who did that job. Both had serious war wounds but indomitable spiri=
ts and humour.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 8 Jan 2026, at 04:31, bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:notakitcar@yahoo.com">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" con=
tent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">John,<div>Din=E2=80=99t Sir Black hire s=
ome army vets to bang out the commission plates. &nbsp;</div><div>Bill</div>=
<div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CTh=
e harder I work, the luckier I get<span style=3D"font-size: 19pt;">=E2=80=9D=
 &nbsp;H. Ford</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33=E2=80=
=AFPM, John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>johnbmac=
artney@gmx.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>N=
ah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a Tuesday but d=
on=E2=80=99t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Friday. Even t=
hen, count yer self lucky =E2=80=98cos you ain=E2=80=99t given us an opportu=
nity to go on strike.</span><br><span>Funny sized letters and numbers? Sound=
s like Nobby with his fisheye glasses and two left boots is back in circulat=
ion again.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jonmac</span><br><span></span><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oertwig@mac.com";>oertwig@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><=
br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At lea=
st attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate=
 titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the differen=
t rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.</span><br></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span>Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission pl=
ate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given=
 one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping detail=
s. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe a=
fter lunch. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><=
br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Would be hard to find a lase=
r engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect=
 after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.</span><br></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span>Steve</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite=
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"cite"><span>On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
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"cite"><span>than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..."</span><br></blockquot=
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e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Today's Topics:</span><br></blockquote></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span>=
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)</span>=
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations</sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Sujit Roy)</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span>----------------------------------------------------=
------------------</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Message: 1</span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>From: dave n=
orthrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>To: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com";>no=
takitcar@yahoo.com</a>&gt;, "<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triu=
mphs@autox.team.net</a>"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span><br></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span=
>Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping</span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Messa=
ge-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com";>1=
a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Conten=
t-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I=
 was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this</span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>-------- Original message -------=
-</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yahoo=
.com">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (G=
MT-08:00)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ran=
teer.com">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] new c=
ommission plate and stamping</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Used to be=
 able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. &nbsp;Of course, the ?3? will=
 be wrong.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Bill</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>?The h=
arder I work, the luckier I get? &nbsp;H. Ford</span><br></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span>On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave=
@ranteer.com">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span>?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?</span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span>** <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.ne=
t</a> **</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
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eam.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br></blockqu=
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span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Mes=
sage: 2</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800</span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>From: Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";>triumphsta=
g@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com">jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>C=
c: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Le=
ak test kit recommendations</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Message-ID:</span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> &=
nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAO=
JwwG2BGw@mail.gmail.com">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw=
@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D=
"utf-8"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Thanks, I'll check them out.</s=
pan><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van V=
lack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com";>jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span>Hi Sujit,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I have expe=
rience with these type kits and they all work basically the</span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>same by pulling gases up thru testing=
 fluid and looking for a color change.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in=
 the kit. You</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>don't=
 need to use much fluid for each test.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span=
>Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the</=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>car at idle with the=
 radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>it opens you only observe coolant flowing=
 you're good. If coolant gets</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indica=
tion of a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>head gasket=
 issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I personally like the kits wi=
th the tube and rubber bulb like this one</span><br></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span><a href=3D"http://Amazon.com";>Amazon.com</a>: Block T=
ester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -</span><br></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Made in USA : Automotive</span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>&lt;<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com=
/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BEL=
SHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6Jm=
phoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMS=
thI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugO=
zofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-t=
QDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp=
;qid=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3">h=
ttps://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3D=
sr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1U=
FhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3l=
zAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxT=
jRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KN=
VjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tes=
ter+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3=
537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>You might be=
 able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts</span><br></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>store.</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>Hope this helps</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>JVV</span><b=
r></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>---------------------------=
---</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>*From:* Triumph=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Sujit Roy</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><span>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";>triump=
hstag@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>*Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM</span><br></blockquote></bloc=
kquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>*To:* Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@au=
tox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>*Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test k=
it recommendations</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I see kits on Amaz=
on priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my</span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>engine 50-100 times. What is a good inex=
pensive kit folks like to use.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit Roy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>Cupertino, California</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><a=
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pan><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
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te></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><span>-- </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit Roy</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><s=
pan>Cupertino, California</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><a href=3D"ht=
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