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give me a few days.i did get a run of original rivits made.ill see if i ca=
n have a new run made and how much it may cost.they were quite reasonable a=
s i recall
Frank
On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:48:21 PM PST, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail=
.com> wrote: =20
=20
I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-us=
ing a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the riv=
ets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stor=
ies). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.=C2=A0 He=
reused the original plate.=C2=A0 The original plate is secured with sheet =
metal screws.=C2=A0 He reused the original screws.
Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.=C2=A0 He eve=
n brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the scre=
ws.=C2=A0 So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.
I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and=
riveted the plate on.
Greg LemonTR250
On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrot=
e:
I get that.=C2=A0 =C2=A0IMHO,=C2=A0 a beautiful plate complements a gorgeou=
s restoration.=C2=A0 An original plate,=C2=A0 although original,=C2=A0 does=
not.
I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.=C2=A0 =C2=A0No, it's not ori=
ginal,=C2=A0 but it is beautiful=C2=A0
-------- Original message --------From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>=
Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> Cc:=
triumphs@autox.team.net, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> Subject: Re: [T=
R] Redoing the whole commission plate process=20
I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commissio=
n number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.=C2=A0 :)
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8T=
ssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg
DonSanta Fe(TR3B TSF202L with original commission=C2=A0plate)
On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wr=
ote:
I wouldn't worry about the rivets.=C2=A0 The inspecting officer won't have =
a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.=C2=A0 And having a perfe=
ctly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.
Dave=20
On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac=
.com> wrote:
I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one =
so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is=
a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 20=
00s so the plate looks similar.
Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers=
of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of =
different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought ma=
ybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.=
=20
Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I woul=
d like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates =
and body numbers.
Steve
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> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
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> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>=20
> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.=C2=A0 Of course,=
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> Bill
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> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?=C2=A0 H. Ford
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>> Hi Sujit,
>>=20
>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color chan=
ge.
>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>=20
>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running th=
e
>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If whe=
n
>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of=
a
>> head gasket issue.
>>=20
>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>> Made in USA : Automotive
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFT=
F/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28=
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>>=20
>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>> store.
>>=20
>> Hope this helps
>>=20
>> JVV
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>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>=20
>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">give me a few days.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">i did get a run of original rivits made=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">ill see if i can have a new r=
un made and how much it may cost.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
e">they were quite reasonable as i recall</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Frank</div><div=
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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<div>
On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:48:21 PM PST, Greg=
Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
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=20
<div><div id=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671"><div><div>I don't=
have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a co=
mmission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets remi=
nded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories). My=
brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite. He reused =
the original plate. The original plate is secured with sheet metal sc=
rews. He reused the original screws.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v>Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted. He e=
ven brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the sc=
rews. So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.=
</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I don't remember how it ended, but=
I think my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.</div><div><=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Greg Lemon</div><div>TR250</div></div><br clea=
r=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote ydp4a29f8b9yiv=
5076023671gmail_quote_container"><div id=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671yqt4894=
9" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671yqt8801919366"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AF=
PM dave northrup <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote">
<div>
I get that. IMHO, a beautiful plate complements a gorgeou=
s restoration. An original plate, although original, does=
not.
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved. No, it's no=
t original, but it is beautiful </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Don Hiscock <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>> </=
div>
<div>Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) </div>
<div>To: DAVID MASSEY <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.c=
om" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> </div>
<div>Cc: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>, Stephen Oertwig <=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:oertwig@mac.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult">I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original comm=
ission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment. :)</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/=
0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7Z=
NSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a></div>
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ult"><br clear=3D"none">
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<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult">Don</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult">Santa Fe</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult">(TR3B TSF202L with original commission plate)</div>
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<div class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5=
, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto=
:dave1massey@cs.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs.com<=
/a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote">
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I wouldn't worry about the rivets. The inspecting of=
ficer won't have a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there. A=
nd having a perfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.</=
div>
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<div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:12=
pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
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pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none">
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<div>On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <<a =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:oertwig@mac.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>> wrote:
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in:0px 0px 0px 8px;">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach =
the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled i=
n Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets=
used on other 2000s so the plate
looks similar.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission =
plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was gi=
ven one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping de=
tails. Thought maybe it was a Friday
car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country=
. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other c=
ommission plates and body numbers.<br clear=3D"none">
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</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Steve<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freig=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <<a=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> Hi Sujit,<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> I have experience with these type kits and they a=
ll work basically the<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and l=
ooking for a color change.<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of =
fluid in the kit. You<br clear=3D"none">
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ear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> Having said this you can also look for a blown he=
ad gasket by running the<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the t=
hermostat opens. If when<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're =
good. If coolant gets<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that=
's a good indication of a<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> head gasket issue.<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubb=
er bulb like this one<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combu=
stion Leak Test Kit -<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> Made in USA : Automotive<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.amazon.=
com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB=
5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6Vozhu=
ZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAm=
EZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3=
CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYL=
qEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+co=
olant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&s=
r=3D8-3" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Te=
ster-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&=
amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY=
7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm=
5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4=
g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGS=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from =
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> Hope this helps<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> *From:* Triumphs <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ma=
ilto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tr=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM<br clea=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test =
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<div dir=3D"ltr">>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up.=
I dont plan to test my<br clear=3D"none">
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