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Please do. I=E2=80=99ve noticed in the past that the person who commendably p=
romotes Drive Your Triumph Day each February, has unknowingly got some facts=
about Black (which I now can=E2=80=99t recall) rather back to front. It=E2=80=
=99s this sort of thing that misleads people who really do value Standard Mo=
tor Company history and it=E2=80=99s hellishly difficult to correct these er=
rors at a later date. Maybe I=E2=80=99m being unnecessarily pedantic but it s=
till grieves me when well-intended people don=E2=80=99t check their facts. E=
xactly the same situation applies when other enthusiasts for Jaguar and MG d=
o the same thing.
Cheers, Jonmac
> On 8 Jan 2026, at 15:04, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>=20
> Dear John,
>=20
> Again, a piece of history people need to know. Shows the gratitude Sir Joh=
n Black had for those who served. This story should be told when we honor hi=
s legacy Feb. 10.=20
>=20
> V/R
> Steve
>=20
>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 4:40=E2=80=AFAM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.co=
m> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> He did. Mostly they were former prewar employees who were guaranteed a jo=
b at Standard Motor Co if they survived the war. Black also instructed Perso=
nnel Dept that whatever job they were offered that their salaries were to be=
at the very summit for that job grade plus 15% - in perpetuity until they e=
ither retired or died in service. I based the conversation of yesterday on t=
wo of those men who did that job. Both had serious war wounds but indomitabl=
e spirits and humour.
>>=20
>> JM
>>=20
>>> On 8 Jan 2026, at 04:31, bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> John,
>>> Din=E2=80=99t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission p=
lates. =20
>>> Bill
>>>=20
>>> =E2=80=9CThe harder I work, the luckier I get=E2=80=9D H. Ford
>>>=20
>>> On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.c=
om> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFNah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a=
Tuesday but don=E2=80=99t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come =
Friday. Even then, count yer self lucky =E2=80=98cos you ain=E2=80=99t given=
us an opportunity to go on strike.
>>> Funny sized letters and numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye glas=
ses and two left boots is back in circulation again.
>>>=20
>>> Jonmac
>>>=20
>>>> On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original o=
ne so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It i=
s a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 20=
00s so the plate looks similar.
>>>>=20
>>>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has num=
bers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp o=
f different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought m=
aybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.=20=
>>>>=20
>>>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I w=
ould like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plate=
s and body numbers.
>>>>=20
>>>> Steve
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wr=
ote:
>>>>>=20
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)
>>>>> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>>> (Sujit Roy)
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
>>>>> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>>>> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
>>>>> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>>>> Message-ID: <1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
>>>>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of course, t=
he ?3? will be wrong.
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>=20
>>>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
>>>>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
>>>>>=20
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>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
>>>>> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations=
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mail.gmail.com>=
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>=
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Hi Sujit,
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically th=
e
>>>>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color c=
hange.
>>>>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. Yo=
u
>>>>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running=
the
>>>>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If w=
hen
>>>>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant get=
s
>>>>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication=
of a
>>>>>> head gasket issue.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this on=
e
>>>>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -=
>>>>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVB=
SFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM=
28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVo=
J92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe=
0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThD=
Uhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+test=
er+for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=3D=
8-3>
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto part=
s
>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> JVV
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit=
Roy
>>>>>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test=
my
>>>>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use=
.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Sujit
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sujit Roy
>>>>>> Cupertino, California
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> --=20
>>>>> Sujit Roy
>>>>> Cupertino, California
>>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ple=
ase do. I=E2=80=99ve noticed in the past that the person who commendably pro=
motes Drive Your Triumph Day each February, has unknowingly got some facts a=
bout Black (which I now can=E2=80=99t recall) rather back to front. It=E2=80=
=99s this sort of thing that misleads people who really do value Standard Mo=
tor Company history and it=E2=80=99s hellishly difficult to correct these er=
rors at a later date. Maybe I=E2=80=99m being unnecessarily pedantic but it s=
till grieves me when well-intended people don=E2=80=99t check their facts. E=
xactly the same situation applies when other enthusiasts for Jaguar and MG d=
o the same thing.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers, J=
onmac</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 8 Jan 2026, at 15:04, Stephen Oertwig <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:oertwig@mac.com";>oertwig@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></=
div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-t=
ype" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Dear John,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Again, a p=
iece of history people need to know. Shows the gratitude Sir John Black had f=
or those who served. This story should be told when we honor his legacy Feb.=
10. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">V/R</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Steve</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 8=
, 2026, at 4:40=E2=80=AFAM, John Macartney <<a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacart=
ney@gmx.com">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"con=
tent-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">He did. Mostly they were former prewar employees who were guar=
anteed a job at Standard Motor Co if they survived the war. Black also instr=
ucted Personnel Dept that whatever job they were offered that their salaries=
were to be at the very summit for that job grade plus 15% - in perpetuity u=
ntil they either retired or died in service. I based the conversation of yes=
terday on two of those men who did that job. Both had serious war wounds but=
indomitable spirits and humour.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">JM</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 8 Jan 2026, at 04:31, bill beecher <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com";>notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:=
<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D=
"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">John,<div>Din=E2=80=99=
t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission plates. </d=
iv><div>Bill</div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=E2=80=9CThe harder I work, the luckier I get<span style=3D"font-size:=
19pt;">=E2=80=9D H. Ford</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 5, 2=
026, at 8:33=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney <<a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney=
@gmx.com">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">=EF=BB=BF<span>Nah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build=
on a Tuesday but don=E2=80=99t expect anything to appear until eight weeks c=
ome Friday. Even then, count yer self lucky =E2=80=98cos you ain=E2=80=99t g=
iven us an opportunity to go on strike.</span><br><span>Funny sized letters a=
nd numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye glasses and two left boots is=
back in circulation again.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jonmac</span><b=
r><span></span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, S=
tephen Oertwig <<a href=3D"mailto:oertwig@mac.com";>oertwig@mac.com</a>>=
; wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I need to redo plate on 1967 200=
0 estate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN t=
o get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been study=
ing the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.</sp=
an><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Then need to find new 2000 plate. The origin=
al commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each w=
orker was given one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in s=
tamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tu=
esday. Maybe after lunch. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Would be hard t=
o find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something=
that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.=
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Steve</span><br></blockquote><blockquote=
type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, <a href=3D"ma=
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ckquote type=3D"cite"><span> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave n=
orthrup)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit reco=
mmendations</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><span> (Sujit Roy)</span><br></blo=
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ge: 1</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000</span><br></blo=
ckquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><sp=
an>From: dave northrup <<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.=
com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: bill beecher <<a href=3D"mailto:notakit=
car@yahoo.com">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>>, "<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>"</span><br></blockquote></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping</span>=
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span>Message-ID: <<a href=3D"mailto:1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f8849=
36@ranteer.com">1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com</a>></span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"</span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></s=
pan><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span>I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do t=
his</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>-------- Original m=
essage --------</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>From: bill beecher <<a href=3D"mailto:n=
otakitcar@yahoo.com">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: 1/=
3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: dave northrup <<a href=3D"=
mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject:=
Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of cours=
e, the ?3? will be wrong.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Bill</span><br></blockquote></bl=
ockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><b=
r></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford</span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
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pan></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span>?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
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r></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>Message: 2</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>From: Sujit Roy <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.co=
m">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: Jerry Van Vlack <<=
a href=3D"mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com";>jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>></span>=
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span>Cc: Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triu=
mphs@autox.team.net</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket C=
ombustion Leak test kit recommendations</span><br></blockquote></blockquote>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Message-ID:</span>=
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span> <<a href=3D"mailto:CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMC=
JVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mail.gmail.com">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3O=
Rj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Content-Type: text/p=
lain; charset=3D"utf-8"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Thanks, I'll ch=
eck them out.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:=
53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <<a href=3D"mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com";>jerryvvtr=
4a@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Hi Sujit,</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span>I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>same by pulling ga=
ses up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.</span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>The multiple test claims relate to th=
e amount of fluid in the kit. You</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>don't need to use much fluid for each test.</span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>Having said this you can also look for a blown head gaske=
t by running the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>ca=
r at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>it opens you only obser=
ve coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets</span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><span>blown out of the radiator instead of flowing th=
at's a good indication of a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>head gasket issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I personall=
y like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one</span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><a href=3D"http://Amazon.com";>Amazon.=
com</a>: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -</span><b=
r></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Made in USA : Automotive</s=
pan><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><<a href=3D"https:=
//www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_=
1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhN=
YzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb=
3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRs=
cAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjb=
ccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester=
+for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537=
&sr=3D8-3">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp=
/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3w=
wU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksG=
nRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJ=
aMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.=
by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3D=
combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombust=
ion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=3D8-3</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span>You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>store.</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>Hope this helps</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span>JVV</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>-----------=
-------------------</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span=
>*From:* Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>tri=
umphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Sujit Roy</span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gma=
il.com">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>*Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM</span><br></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>*To:* Triumphs <<a href=3D"mail=
to:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>></span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>*Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustio=
n Leak test kit recommendations</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I see=
kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my</span><b=
r></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>engine 50-100 times. What i=
s a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span>Sujit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span=
><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit Roy</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>Cupertino, California</span><br></blockquote></bl=
ockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/";>https://trium=
phstagblog.wordpress.com/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
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/span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>Cupertino, California</span><br></blockquote></blockquote>=
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