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Re: GM starter no restart when "hot" repair?

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Subject: Re: GM starter no restart when "hot" repair?
From: "David R. Mapes" <dmapes@erols.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:30:17 -0600
Hey Jack,

MSD has a timing controller you can wire in and (once
you've set the advance at the dist') dial out advance
from the dirver's seat for bad gas or easier starting.

May have to switch to an MSD ignition box though.

At 05:46 PM 4/19/05 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 4/19/2005 3:49:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>cfchrist@earthlink.net writes:
>
><<<it was an old trick to stand your collection of
>solenod  plunger springs on end and always pick the "shortest" spring when
>building  starters for what was then referred to as a "high torque" starter.
>funny as  it had nothing to do with the length of the armature or fields
>wich "could"  effect actual torque.    before the light weight racing
>starters  became available comercially another trick if space allowed was
>using a  diesel starter field coil housing and armature on a standard nose
>for high  torque with a hard to start (lots of advance dialed in!) GM V8.    
>those starters weigh a small ton but would crank over in hot  start
>situations when lots of compression and advance were effecting a  standard
>starter's ability to spin a motor fast enough to catch and  run.   ;)>>>>
>
>
>OK guys. Now that we know who knows all the GM starter tricks, please  help 
>me with a related subject.
> 
>I have a 454 Suburban that likes a little more advance than over the  counter 
>starters can reliably crank. If I set the advance where I get the best  
>pulling power, sometimes on hot restarts the starter doesn't have the grunt
to  get 
>it turning over. If I back the distributor off a couple of degrees it  cranks 
>fine.
> 
>I have busted a starter trying to get as close to the sweet spot as I  can. 
> 
>I have always thought a distributor with a little more advance would  work 
>but haven't actually looked for one.
> 
>Now I wonder if I just need a stouter starter. How can I tell a good  one 
>from a weak one, or build a better one?
> 
>Is the Olds 455 starter the one to get? I certainly can change the  snout. 
>Isn't there a HD unit for the 454? I thought that is what I have been  getting 
>from the parts store. I hate to get a racing high torque starter  simply 
>because it is nice to get parts in Podunk. That is where I always beak  down.
> 
>Jack Woehrle
>
All the Best!  Dave  ;^)
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