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To: "'DAVID MASSEY'" <dave1massey@cs.com>, <taylorturbo6@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
From: John Macartney via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 16:35:24 -0000
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The pleasure is entirely mine =F0=9F=98=8A. I see from the VTR facebook pag=
e today that Shawn Frank has commented a Vitesse (Sports 6) at Dripping Spr=
ings this year had a wet liner engine. Really? I had two and both had dry l=
iners with a siamesed block between cyls 3 and 4. Also, the car illustrated=
 is in Lichfield Green yet the car has 2 litre badges on it from what I can=
 see. If it is a 2 litre, I doubt it left the factory in that colour as it =
had long since been discontinued. Maybe a respray? Is it a 1600 or a 2 litr=
e. Who knows but it may be a bit of a =E2=80=98ringer=E2=80=99 for the unwa=
ry.

 

Jonmac

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> 
Sent: 04 November 2019 14:53
To: john.macartney@UKPIPS.Org.uk; taylorturbo6@yahoo.com
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

 

Thank you, John, for putting this into perspective.  We often forget what s=
hackles were constraining the engineers.  They did an admirable job conside=
ring the cost constraints and the limits of technology at the time.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk>
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey@cs.com>; taylorturbo6 <taylorturbo6@yahoo.c=
om>
Cc: 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:38 am
Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Dave Massey wrote:

>If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.  On my car there is a fo=
ur-way T that connects this port >and the ports at each end of the tank to =
a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in >turn con=
nected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.

 

>>>>>But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.

 

My response really concentrates on Dave=E2=80=99s last sentence and at the =
risk of a little verbosity (intended to clarify) this is how it often was f=
or North American spec cars built outside the US and classified as imports.=


Let=E2=80=99s take for example a car that would be the current model on 1st=
 Jan 1970 and on sale in the destination market as at that date.

The Federal Bureau of Vehicle Safety Standards (or whatever it called itsel=
f in the days before the internet or mobile phones/faxes and when we still =
used carbon paper) would give overseas manufacturers selling cars in the US=
, an outline of the *likely* changes that would be current for the next mod=
el year. This info was usually made available to us by end January 1969 wit=
h the rider that they would not be final until authorised by the FBVSS in l=
ate June/early July 1969.

So the vehicle manufacturers went balls out to build/modify cars for the ne=
xt sales year with all the modifications the anticipated legislation would =
require =E2=80=93 including the wording, font size, whatever of sticky labe=
ls to be placed wherever. There was something of a frenzy is the emission r=
egs for California** were due to be tightened up even further and everyone =
crossed their legs and fingers that the current engine range would meet req=
uirements.

At mid-summer 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs for 1970. Sometimes, they del=
eted a requirement =E2=80=93 and sometimes pitched in a =E2=80=98naughty=E2=
=80=99 they hadn=E2=80=99t indicated earlier. Mixed sighs of relief and =E2=
=80=9Coh s**t=E2=80=9D moments.

Five models of each car are built to the 1970 spec and shipped (often airfr=
eighted) to the States for FBVSS evaluation and rubber-stamping so that the=
 models can be sold next year. By now, we=E2=80=99re mid to end August 1969=
=2E If everything is OK=E2=80=99d or nodded through, everything goes beserk=
 in Coventry to build and ship the cars required to be in the US for Jan 1,=
 1970. Usually, the quantities were to meet a six week stock depth across t=
he US and to achieve this, often meant vehicle to all other world markets s=
topped. Then when it re-commenced, there were all the other changes those o=
ther 150 odd world markets wanted included as well. Then, for good measure,=
 a few wildcards might get thrown in the works like a supplier strike or do=
ck workers strike and everything stopped. Then flat out again to clear the =
backlog.

I was having an informal chat some years ago with the late Mike Cook about =
this whole shenanigans and he confirmed that Detroit always got preferentia=
l treatment by receiving outline and confirmed specs for the next model yea=
r a good six months earlier than everyone else =E2=80=93 i.e. the imported =
stuff. Good capitalist protectionism=F0=9F=98=8A 

To make matters worse, the standards for Detroit product and Joe Soap=E2=80=
=99s imported product were nearly always different inasmuch as the imports =
had a harder job to meet the specs in terms of what they were (i.e. we were=
 expected to do more than Detroit) and six months less time in which to do =
it. Frankly, I think it=E2=80=99s amazing we ever sold anything at all and =
of all the European manufacturers who moaned and bellyached about the extra=
 work, Volkswagen were the worst by far.

 

Jonmac

 

 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the tru=
nk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...=


Dick


1massey@cs.com> wrote:

No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.  R=
otating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumb=
ing.  I thought they were all that way.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be move=
d around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they a=
ll? 

I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right =
the cap opens is immaterial. 

Dick 


am.net> 6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:

It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler a=
nd spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish =
to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car =
it is hinged on the right.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
=2Eteam.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,  

   If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you wi=
ll know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyw=
ay, for your sage advice:

 

When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hi=
nge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?

 

   Thanks in advance of your reply.

 

Rick

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The pleasure is entirely mine =
</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&#128522;</span><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>. I see from the VTR facebook page =
today that Shawn Frank has commented a Vitesse (Sports 6) at Dripping =
Springs this year had a wet liner engine. Really? I had two and both had =
dry liners with a siamesed block between cyls 3 and 4. Also, the car =
illustrated is in Lichfield Green yet the car has 2 litre badges on it =
from what I can see. If it is a 2 litre, I doubt it left the factory in =
that colour as it had long since been discontinued. Maybe a respray? Is =
it a 1600 or a 2 litre. Who knows but it may be a bit of a =
=E2=80=98ringer=E2=80=99 for the unwary.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jonmac<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US> DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1massey@cs.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> =
04 November 2019 14:53<br><b>To:</b> john.macartney@UKPIPS.Org.uk; =
taylorturbo6@yahoo.com<br><b>Cc:</b> =
6pack@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tha=
nk you, John, for putting this into perspective.&nbsp; We often forget =
what shackles were constraining the engineers.&nbsp; They did an =
admirable job considering the cost constraints and the limits of =
technology at the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: John Macartney =
&lt;john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk&gt;<br>To: 'DAVID MASSEY' =
&lt;dave1massey@cs.com&gt;; taylorturbo6 =
&lt;taylorturbo6@yahoo.com&gt;<br>Cc: 6pack =
&lt;6pack@autox.team.net&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:38 =
am<br>Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e Massey wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.&nbsp; On my car there =
is a four-way T that connects this port &gt;and the ports at each end of =
the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which =
is in &gt;turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal =
canister.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;But it looks like they changed the configuration over =
the years.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>My =
response really concentrates on Dave=E2=80=99s last sentence and at the =
risk of a little verbosity (intended to clarify) this is how it often =
was for North American spec cars built outside the US and classified as =
imports.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Let=
=E2=80=99s take for example a car that would be the current model on =
1<sup>st</sup> Jan 1970 and on sale in the destination market as at that =
date.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 Federal Bureau of Vehicle Safety Standards (or whatever it called =
itself in the days before the internet or mobile phones/faxes and when =
we still used carbon paper) would give overseas manufacturers selling =
cars in the US, an outline of the *<b>likely</b>* changes that would be =
current for the next model year. This info was usually made available to =
us by <b>end January 1969</b> with the rider that they would not be =
final until authorised by the FBVSS in <b>late June/early July =
1969</b>.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>So =
the vehicle manufacturers went balls out to build/modify cars for the =
next sales year with all the modifications the anticipated legislation =
would require =E2=80=93 including the wording, font size, whatever of =
sticky labels to be placed wherever. There was something of a frenzy is =
the emission regs for California** were due to be tightened up even =
further and everyone crossed their legs and fingers that the current =
engine range would meet requirements.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>At =
mid-summer 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs for 1970. Sometimes, they =
deleted a requirement =E2=80=93 and sometimes pitched in a =
=E2=80=98naughty=E2=80=99 they hadn=E2=80=99t indicated earlier. Mixed =
sighs of relief and =E2=80=9Coh s**t=E2=80=9D moments.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fiv=
e models of each car are built to the 1970 spec and shipped (often =
airfreighted) to the States for FBVSS evaluation and rubber-stamping so =
that the models can be sold next year. By now, we=E2=80=99re <b>mid to =
end August 1969</b>. If everything is OK=E2=80=99d or nodded through, =
everything goes beserk in Coventry to build and ship the cars required =
to be in the US for <b>Jan 1, 1970</b>. Usually, the quantities were to =
meet a six week stock depth across the US and to achieve this, often =
meant vehicle to all other world markets stopped. Then when it =
re-commenced, there were all the other changes those other 150 odd world =
markets wanted included as well. Then, for good measure, a few wildcards =
might get thrown in the works like a supplier strike or dock workers =
strike and everything stopped. Then flat out again to clear the =
backlog.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
was having an informal chat some years ago with the late Mike Cook about =
this whole shenanigans and he confirmed that Detroit always got =
preferential treatment by receiving outline and confirmed specs for the =
next model year a good six months <b><u>earlier</u></b> than everyone =
else =E2=80=93 i.e. the imported stuff. Good capitalist =
protectionism</span><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Segoe =
UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:black'>&#128522;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>To =
make matters worse, the standards for Detroit product and Joe =
Soap=E2=80=99s imported product were nearly always different inasmuch as =
the imports had a harder job to meet the specs in terms of what they =
were (i.e. we were expected to do more than Detroit) and six months less =
time in which to do it. Frankly, I think it=E2=80=99s amazing we ever =
sold anything at all and of all the European manufacturers who moaned =
and bellyached about the extra work, Volkswagen were the worst by =
far.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jon=
mac</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd41571><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd87632><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Richard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:taylorturbo6@yahoo.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">taylorturbo6@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>To: DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br>Cc: richardolindsay =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">6pack@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 =
9:39 pm<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258><div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd38227><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Doe=
s this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the =
trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's =
interior...</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dic=
k</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258yqt45614><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd65662><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>dave1massey@cs.com</span></a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd22366><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>No,=
 not all.&nbsp; The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the =
cap.&nbsp; Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate =
changing the plumbing.&nbsp; I thought they were all that =
way.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd79848><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Richard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:taylorturbo6@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>taylorturbo6@yahoo.com</span></a>&gt;<br>To: =
DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>dave1massey@cs.com</span></a>&gt;<br>Cc: =
richardolindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>richardolindsay@gmail.com</span></a>&gt;; 6pack =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>6pack@autox.team.net</span></a>&gt;<br>Sent: =
Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258><div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd71908><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be =
moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't =
they all?&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right =
the cap opens is immaterial.&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dic=
k&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258yqt64369><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>6pack@autox.team.net</span></a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It'=
s not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler =
and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.&nbsp; If =
you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from =
there.&nbsp; On my car it is hinged on the right.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>6pack@autox.team.net</span></a>&gt;<br>To: TR6 =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>6pack@autox.team.net</span></a>&gt;<br>Sent: =
Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am<br>Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hel=
lo friends,&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp; &nbsp;If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification =
TR6 you will know that the following question is probably =
irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Whe=
n reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? =
Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or =
another?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp; &nbsp;Thanks in advance of your reply.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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k</span><span =
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p></div></div></div></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
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