At 4:20 PM 8/23/99, Mark J. Andy wrote:
>Howdy,
>
>On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Justin Hughes wrote:
>> > The problem with putting these cars in Stock are that they had special
>> > competition suspension options that are Street Prepared oriented;
>> adjustable
>> > front camber plates, special brake discs, Grupe N adjustable suspension.
>> As
>> > delivered standard they came with special trunk kits; baffled oil pan and
>> > dual oil pump pickup, adjustable rear spoiler, and front subframe
>> crossbrace.
>> > Installing trunk kit items automatically voids the warranty. Engines
>> were
>> > dyno'd & handpicked from std. assembly line, plus BMW specifically stated
>> > that theses vehicles were made for competition. Aluminum door skins,
>> stiffer
>> > suspension springs with 1" lower ride height, sound padding removed,
>> special
>> > seats, and a lower rear gear were also std.
>> >
>> > Hardly the type of vehicle to be classed in Stock.
>>
>> Arguably, so is the Neon ACR. OK, so Dodge doesn't hand pick each engine.
>> But they do many of the same things that BMW does to the LTW. Before the
>> Neonites jump in, yes, I'm aware that the Neon R/T has most of the same
>> performance upgrades as the ACR. But the ACR came first, by several years.
>
>Are you sure you aren't some automated software package designed to
>irritate me?
>
>Lesse. In the early years the differences between the ACR and the regular
>DOHC neon were:
>struts (slotted for camber and different valving),
>slightly thicker hubs (no performance advantage),
>non-speed limited computer (removed the 116mph speed limit),
>different roll bars, stiffer springs,
>different final drive (3.94 from 3.52 I think?)
>
>In the later years it was just the struts and hubs, except the struts were
>now rebound adjustable as well.
>
>So you could pretty much convert any neon to the "full on racecar" specs
>in an afternoon. And, of course, anyone that wanted one could
>order it.
>Compare that the the M3 Lightweight that dropped the ride height, had AL
>body skins, had aero aids added, had a _hand picked_ motor, came with
>parts that if installed voided the factory warranty, etc. Oh, and had
>less than 200 made.
>
>How you could compare the two boggles the mind.
...but it easily compares to the Type R ....
Jim Rohn
loves to see a good thread war
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