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RE: Autocrossing???

To: "'HEYWARD WAGNER'" <h_kenyon@email.msn.com>,
Subject: RE: Autocrossing???
From: "Tharpe, Joe (RyTull Coil)" <JoeT@ryersoncoil.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:00:40 -0500
It depends on you definition of  (long pause)  "racing".

Joe T


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   HEYWARD WAGNER [mailto:h_kenyon@email.msn.com]
                Sent:   Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:58 AM
                To:     Paul Foster; team.net
                Subject:        Re: Autocrossing???

                3) Autocrossing isn't racing.

                -- Now why did you have to go and do that, you were on the
verge of a well
                thought out, intelligent argument and you had to throw that
in there and
                hack a whole bunch of people off.... Argument based on fact,
look into it.
        
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                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Paul Foster <pfoster@gdi.net>
                To: team.net <autox@autox.team.net>
                Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 11:53 AM
                Subject: Autocrossing???


                > Someone said:
                >
                > <snip>
                >
                > <<<me/my club for the Shootout in Cheyenne next summer,
and
                > try your hand at a _real_ autocross, complete with all
                > the spectators you could want and more street curbs than
                > you could ever imagine being afraid of, and Cobras (not
                > Mustangs) that will break all eardrums, as well as all
times.
                > I won't bother dropping any names, since team.net doesn't
                > seem to know anyone outside of the SCCA.>>>
                >
                > <snip>
                >
                > <<<As a dedicated "guy in white" for the road racers, it
                > pains me to say that the SCCA did not invent autocross,
                > is not the "end-all" of autocross, does not know
everything
                > in the world about autocross, and definitely does not
                > run the best autocross events, unless you think "best"
                > means paying five nights of hotels in Fumbuck, Kansas to
get
                > six or seven minutes of run time.
                >
                > If you're into ego-trophies, go pay that price.  I'm just
                > into the fun of racing and the skill of driving, like
                > the other 95% of us that the SCCA has forgotten.>>>
                >
                > Lessee now,
                >
                > 1) Real autocrosses don't have curbs because you have to
be nuts to go
                > 10/10ths anywhere near them.
                > 2) Nationals is now in East Fumbuck and there aren't many
hotels in
                > that part of the world.
                > 3) Autocrossing isn't racing.
                > 4) I hope you don't have the SCCA Solo II insuror for your
events
                > because I'd hate for him to think we were all yahoos too.
                >
                > Paul Foster
                >
                >
                

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