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Subject: Re: [British-cars] are these lists still alive ?
From: AB Bonds <ab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:22:11 -0500
Yikes.  My take is that the wholesale replacement of the drivetrain that
you propose would take vastly more effort than fixing the engine.  Even
if you tried to make it reversible, there would inevitably be things
that would have to be cut and pasted to make it work, which IMHO would
severely impact the authenticity (hence value) of your Singer.  Have you
looked into what it would take simply to swap the engine?  If the Singer
clutch could be made to fit the MGB flywheel, the rest ought to be
fairly straightforward.

In any case, I'd be patient, save my pennies and fix the original
engine.

A. B. Bonds

> -----Original Message-----
> From: british-cars-bounces@autox.team.net
> [mailto:british-cars-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:42 PM
> To: british-cars@autox.team.net; british-cars-pre-war@autox.team.net
> Subject: [British-cars] are these lists still alive ?
>
>  I have a question about my 1934 Singer, I have very serious
> concerns about the motor and I am considering a temporary
> engine swap.  The Singer is a 6cylinder 1.5litre car, I have
> free access to a late 1960's or extremely early 1970's MGB
> that is pretty much a running rust bucket parts donor.  I am
> going to assume that its a 1800cc motor but anyone know the
> weight of the motor also motor and trans ?
>
>  The Singer wheel track is 4'4" front and rear and according
> to the internet the MGB is 4.125 for the rear, I would have
> to put the Singer's 18" wire wheels on the MGB's rear axle.
> Would that track difference be a issue on the handling of the
> car ? since its wire wheels I am not sure I could put in
> spacers like you would on a steel rims.
>
>  My thinking is to butcher this extremely rare 1934 Singer
> and put in the MGB drivetrain while I get the Singer motor
> redone, that will take some serious cash, the block is
> cracked, I have to have pistons made, babbitt bearings poured
> and its all going to be very expensive.  I would not want to
> do any permanent butchering of the Singer, anything and
> everything I do would have to be reversable when I finish the
> proper motor but it gets it on the road for now.
>
>  Both rear ends are leaf springs so I don't see a issue
> there, the engine compartment is quite roomy for the 6
> cylinder so the MG 4 should fit very nicely (not measured
> anything yet), I could weld up motor mounts that minimize the
> damage to the Singer or better yet do no damage.  The only
> "gotcha" I have at this time would be the clutch and brake
> pedal assembly and mixing the MG rear brakes with the Singer
> front brakes, I have to check on that as I don't even like
> the sound of it, but I should be able to take the MG front
> axle back plates and put them on the Singer, so I am back to
> just the pedal assembly without damaging the Singer chassis.
>
>  I have all the cool toys to do this with, lathe, mill,
> welders, etc.  I just don't have the engine/drivetrain
> switching knowledge, never done that YET but it does not look
> too hard.  Well I have started it on another car but its not
> finished yet.
>
>     mike
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