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Re: seattle

To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: seattle
From: "Mark Coffin" <coffinm@mail.ecu.edu>
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:43:56 -0500
OK, we get it.  Please return to ROADSTER ONLY POSTS.
I appreciate your position and the point you're trying
to make, but this is a car discussion list.

If I want political discussion, I'll sign up for it.

Thank you.

Mark Coffin
68 2000 SRL311-04425

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>From: "James W. Anable, Jr." <anable@halcyon.com>
>To: Waylon Harthun <jackfrost@uswest.net>, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: seattle
>Date: Thu, Dec 2, 1999, 8:45 PM
>

> Waylon Harthun wrote:
>
>> Ok one last comment, I know this whole thing is blown way outta proportion
>> and things are rediculous, like it is now 2:00 am and there are still
>> people on the street.
>> I don't mean any offense but being a native and working in the curfew zone,
>> I just request one thing, PLEASE JUST GO HOME!!!!!!!!!
>
> Well, I went home around 10 p.m., right after I was bum-rushed by goons in
> Darth Vadar outfits (a.k.a. Seattle Police Department).  I was out taking
> pictures of the situation.
>
> I can tell you this:  The only reason people were outside is because their
> neighborhood was INVADED by National Guard and police.  If they would have
> left, everybody else would have.
>
> Again, I was there.  There was NO violence or vandalism.  The police were the
> problem.
>
> When I got home, I watched the rest of the story on TV.  It concluded around 2
> a.m. with a massive onslaught of CS and OC gas, rubber bullets, flash
> grenades...
>
> A few minutes after that, the news reporter interview Brian Derdowski, a King
> County councilman who was present and attempting to negotiate an end to the
> madness.  All the group wanted was for the police to take ONE STEP BACK, as a
> symbolic gesture acknowledging that this was their neighborhood.  The police
> refused, and chose to gas them instead.
>
> I've got pictures of this.  I know it's not Roadster related, but if I get
them
> on my site, I'll post the URL.
>
> One more thing.  When I was on Broadway taking pictures, I kept hearing
shotgun
> blasts.  I notice a shell on the ground and picked it up.  I brought it home
> and did a quick Alta Vista search on it.  I found out that this particular
> projectile had caused DEATH in the past.  According to a velocity and
potential
> penetration study published in the Journal of the International Wound
> Ballistics Association, "... the ammunition must be treated as capable of
> causing serious bodily injury or death to a person and should only be used
when
> lethal force is warranted."
>
> Folks, I was there.  There was NOTHING to warrant anything approaching lethal
> force.  The most defiant act I saw was a man who put one knee on the street,
> two feet from the curb, holding up the peace sign.  The police responded by
> RUSHING this individual with gas canisters in hand, causing a panic in which
at
> least one person was knocked down.  Why didn't they just walk up and arrest
> him?  Is the safety of all of those around him totally meaningless?

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