Oh Robert, you are amazing and endless in your pursuit of Triumph Glory.
More info when you a moment, please. Your e-mail should elicit an informed
response or two from some of the folks who have more than a few rings on
their Triumph Trunks
Today at Blackhawk Farms, the attending FOT spotted a 1953 Devin body on some
awkward creation of mechanicals. Badly cobbled, but selling for best offer,
in desparation by owner. $500 or less comes to mind. Sad.
Joe
In a message dated 4/18/99 7:34:15 AM, rgk@flash.net wrote:
<<While it may not be the smartest thing I've ever done, I just traded a
solid, non-running Texas (98% rust free) TR6 for an old, rusted out TR4A
racecar from the Texas Louisiana border. The documentation with the car is
pretty sketchy, a handful of period pictures, a letter from the original
owner, one Bob Stewart from Baton Rouge, and a notebook 7 pages of notes
where-in the most recent PO talked to some of the other PO's at the end of
1988. There are some interesting details listed, and I hope that the racing
parts listed are actually still inside! Bob Stewart lists 165HP, steel crank,
Carrillo rods and Mercedes axles. He was a TR dealer in Baton Rouge, and
owned the car from 1965 to 1972 or so. An interim owner is deceased so there
is no info from 1972 until 1974.
Another owner, an Earl Millard, who owned the car from 74 to 77, talks about
the Carillos and a compression ratio of 13.5 to 1, SFD Dallas built carbs?, a
head with "no combustion chamber, has notch for spark plug hole", 328 LB
valve springs, radical cam. He said the OD has straight cut, close ratio
gears and a thick core radiator from a Corvette (this I can verify, it's out
in the open). Something about it being a 200+ HP motor is noted. Mr..
Millard says the car had a log book during his ownership, but it has been
lost.
Next comes C.J. Dupont. He never touched the motor, used a Ray Mundt from
Baton Rouge to tune it. He may still have some video of the car and some more
pictures (I wonder if I'll be able to track down any of these people after
another 10 years has gone by). The PO went to some lengths to document his
efforts to locate a log book, and attempt to get the SCCA to issue a new one
for the car using the Log Book # stamped on the roll bar (# 60-012 Central
Louisiana Region SCCA-now defunct). He began dis-assembly with the intent to
go racing in early 1989, and as so often happened, the project languished,
then it rusted. My hope is that I'll find out how one gets 13.5-1 compression
ratio out of what looks like a stock thickness head, that I'll get to send
off some Carillos and a racing crank to the machine shop, and learn something
about the custom axles ,but I also recognize that these parts may be long
gone. The roll structure is pretty neat, but not tall enough for anyone over
5' 6" and I'm 6' 1", but it will be a good pattern for the Devin.
Oh yeah, the real reason for buying this car is to use these parts in the
Devin project. But before I give up on this rusty TR4A, I want to find out if
it's worth recreating. It has some history, although it will take some
digging to prove it. Bob Stewart says he won the SE Division in '66 or '67,
so there must be some record of that, and I do have an almost (98%) rust free
TR4A roller. It once had a 289 in it, but it's lack of battery tray could be
repaired with parts off of the rust bucket, and the history on this car
includes some pictures of a wreck which necessitated a body transplant. Bob's
Stewarts driver was a Dick Prestridge, and the track was here in Austin,
Austin Raceway Park in 1966. Another body could only be considered period
authentic.
Has anyone ever heard of any of these people or have any comments. I'm in the
just brought it home/trying to absorb what I've done mode. Be gentle!
Bob Kramer
rgk@flash.net
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<DIV>While it may not be the smartest thing I've ever
done, I just traded a solid, non-running Texas (98% rust free) TR6 for an
old,
rusted out TR4A racecar from the Texas Louisiana border. The documentation
with
the car is pretty sketchy, a handful of period pictures, a letter from the
original owner, one Bob Stewart from Baton Rouge, and a notebook 7 pages of
notes where-in the most recent PO talked to some of the other PO's at the end
of
1988. There are some interesting details listed, and I hope that the racing
parts listed are actually still inside! Bob Stewart lists 165HP, steel crank,
Carrillo rods and Mercedes axles. He was a TR dealer in Baton Rouge, and
owned
the car from 1965 to 1972 or so. An interim owner is deceased so there is no
info from 1972 until 1974.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Another owner, an Earl Millard, who owned the
car from 74 to 77, talks about the Carillos and a compression ratio of
13.5 to 1, SFD Dallas built carbs?, a head with "no combustion chamber,
has
notch for spark plug hole", 328 LB valve springs, radical cam. He said
the
OD has straight cut, close ratio gears and a thick core radiator from a
Corvette
(this I can verify, it's out in the open). Something about it being a
200+
HP motor is noted. Mr.. Millard says the car had a log book during his
ownership, but it has been lost.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Next comes C.J. Dupont. He never touched the
motor, used a Ray Mundt from Baton Rouge to tune it. He may still have some
video of the car and some more pictures (I wonder if I'll be able to track
down
any of these people after another 10 years has gone by). The PO went to some
lengths to document his efforts to locate a log book, and attempt to get the
SCCA to issue a new one for the car using the Log Book # stamped on the roll
bar
(# 60-012 Central Louisiana Region SCCA-now defunct). He began dis-assembly
with
the intent to go racing in early 1989, and as so often happened, the project
languished, then it rusted. My hope is that I'll find out how one gets 13.5-1
compression ratio out of what looks like a stock thickness head, that I'll
get
to send off some Carillos and a racing crank to the machine shop, and learn
something about the custom axles ,but I also recognize that these parts may
be
long gone. The roll structure is pretty neat, but not tall enough for anyone
over 5' 6" and I'm 6' 1", but it will be a good
pattern for the Devin. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Oh yeah, the real reason for buying this car is to use these
parts in the Devin project. But before I give up on this rusty TR4A, I want
to
find out if it's worth recreating. It has some history, although it will take
some digging to prove it. Bob Stewart says he won the SE Division in '66 or
'67,
so there must be some record of that, and I do have an
almost (98%) rust free TR4A roller. It once had a 289 in it, but it's lack of
battery tray could be repaired with parts off of the rust bucket, and the
history on this car includes some pictures of a wreck which necessitated a
body
transplant. Bob's Stewarts driver was a Dick Prestridge, and the track was
here
in Austin, Austin Raceway Park in 1966. Another body could only be considered
period authentic.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Has anyone ever heard of any of these people or have any
comments. I'm in the just brought it home/trying to absorb what I've done
mode.
Be gentle!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob Kramer</DIV>
<DIV><A HREF="mailto:rgk@flash.net";>rgk@flash.net</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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