I made a valve cover and an oil pan once with a plastic window, the idea of
viewing thehappenings of the oil in the engine. It's such an oil storm you
can't see anything but a lot of disturbed oil spray flying EVERYWHERE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>
To: "'Susan Kahler'" <spitfiresuz@141.com>
Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: Meant oil pan baffle not windage tray
> I did a little google search and couldn't find it. I'll look a little bit
> more tomorrow. I don't remember how I came across them, but they were very
> interesting. I'd never thought that much about how much air movement there
> is in the crankcase, but every time the piston travels down it pushes a
> large volume of air at high speed that blows right into the sump. Do that
> 100 times a second and you've got a lot of movement. When you think about
> things like that it's surprising any of this stuff works.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Kahler [mailto:spitfiresuz@141.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:48 PM
> To: Bill Babcock
> Subject: Re: Meant oil pan baffle not windage tray
>
>
>
> Hi!
>
> If you happen to run across that Web site with the oil movement in the
> engines again, I would love to see it!
>
> Hope you're having a great afternoon!
>
> Thanks!
> Susan :)
>
>
> Bill Babcock wrote:
>
>
> Naturally there are many schools of thought on baffles. A lot of people
>
> like to keeep the maximum amount of oil around the pickup. this calls for
>
> close-fitting baffles and a one-way door. Others don't like moving parts,
>
> that calls for gaps in the baffle to enable oil to move around in the pan,
>
> but not to be slung about. I don't really think there's much difference.
>
>
>
> I've seen the high-speed stroboscopic pictures of oil movement in
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> spinning engines someplace on the web--don't remeber where or why. But it
>
> leads me to believe that the flow that we picture in these engines has
>
> little to do with reality. There was a lot going on in the pictures--they
>
> looked like storm videos. Helical ropes of oil around the crank, pressure
>
> surges from the cylinders exploding the oil from the sump below them. I
>
> pictured oil flinging off the crank and dripping neatly into the sump. Not
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> so.
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>
>
> If you were really serious about oil control you'd have scrapers close to
>
> the crank and a dry sump with oil pickups for each cylinder in isolated
>
> sumps. Everything else is a guess.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Charly Mitchel
>
> To: 6pack digest; FOT; Chuck Arnold
>
> Sent: 7/21/2003 2:46 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Meant oil pan baffle not windage tray
>
>
>
> Chuck, check the fitment of the baffle and the windage tray. The oil
>
> pump
>
> and the dipstick didn't line up and I had to modify the holes a little
>
> to
>
> make it fit properly. I think the dipstick hole was shown on the wrong
>
> side
>
> and the hole for the oil pump was for an early style pump. At least
>
> this
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> was true for the drawings I had.
>
> I also took 2 oil pans and cut the top of one real long and the bottom
>
> of
>
> the other real tall and welded them together to give me a deeper sump.
>
> The
>
> manual also states you then use the one qt. low mark for the full point.
>
> I
>
> wasn't to sure about that and I also extended the oil pump further into
>
> the
>
> pan. I also had the oil pump machined to tighter tolerances. I think I
>
> put
>
> about 7 qts in my motor.
>
> I put some pictures of my car on my website should you be curious:
>
> http://www.mitchelplumbing.com/racing%20page.htm
> <http://www.mitchelplumbing.com/racing%20page.htm>
>
> Charly
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Chuck Arnold" <mailto:chuck.arnold@oracle.com>
> <chuck.arnold@oracle.com>
>
> To: "FOT" <mailto:fot@autox.team.net> <fot@autox.team.net>; "6pack
> digest"
>
> <mailto:6pack-digest@autox.team.net> <6pack-digest@autox.team.net>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:41 PM
>
> Subject: Meant oil pan baffle not windage tray
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>
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>
>
> Earlier today I sent a message regarding size/placement of the
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>
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> "windage
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>
>
> tray" for a TR6. I really meant the oil pan baffle. Should this
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>
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> baffle
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>
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> end end to end and side to side at the 3" mark on the oil pan, or
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>
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> should
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>
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> there be some space on the ends [and sides] for oil return to the
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>
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> well?
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>
>
> Thanks,
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>
>
> Chuck
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>
>
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