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RE: decking a tractor engine block

To: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>, BOB KRAMER <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>,
Subject: RE: decking a tractor engine block
From: "Brad Kahler" <brad.kahler@141.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:37:57 -0500
Bill, wouldn't the bottom of the cylinders be parallel to the top of the 
block and the bottom of the block?  I would think in the interests of 
machining at the factory all of those surfaces would have been parallel 
to each other for ease of working at the factory.  How else would a 
boring plate be use on an engine to hold the liners in place while 
boring?

Brad


On 24 Aug 2005 at 18:32, Bill Babcock wrote:

> The problem is indexing the mill to the bottom of the cylinder. If they
> get a little off the block will be slanted one way or the other and you'll
> blow head gaskets. They are not likely to be too far off in the long
> direction--it's relatively easy to set the mill up so that it is parallel
> to the original surface, but side to side is short, and if they are off
> even a tiny amount, or if the block surface was not that true to the
> cylinder bottoms to begin with and they exacerbate it, then you can have
> trouble. 
> 
> In other words, you need to go to a good shop that does a lot of wet
> sleeve work. This is not a big problem with a typical modern engine.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of Brad Kahler Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:25 PM To: BOB KRAMER;
> fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: decking a tractor engine block
> 
> Hi bob,
> 
> I knew about Mordy's thinner gaskets and will order as needed.  Thats
> interesting about the deck of the block not being parallel to the bottom.
> If that's true I wonder how the did the machining?  When you use a boring
> plate on top of the engine with the liners clamped in place the block is
> sitting on a flat surface perpendicular to the boring head.  That would
> tell me the bottom is parallel to the top, or am I missing something?
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
> 
> On 24 Aug 2005 at 18:10, BOB KRAMER wrote:
> 
> > Brad,
> > Mordy can sell you thinner gaskets to replace the figure 8's.  If you
> > take 5 or 10 off you'll be fine, but I think the real problem is finding
> > somebody to do the job right. I don't think they can reference off the
> > bottom of the block. If you do that, you end up with side to side error.
> > 
> > Bob Kramer
> > rkramer3@austin.rr.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad Kahler" <brad.kahler@141.com>
> > To: <fot@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:58 PM
> > Subject: decking a tractor engine block
> > 
> > 
> > > How much can be safely removed from a wetliner engine block before
> > > having problems with finding figure 8 gaskets that will work?
> > >
> > > Is it safe to take .005" to .010" off?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Brad
> > > 1957 TR3 vintage racer
> > >
> > >
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