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The best way to understand bump steer is to play with some software
that simulates roll/bump. Other than that, just do some google
searches and read online stuff. Most of the books I've read don't do a
good job--no idea why.
The most important thing to understand is that you have zero bump
steer when the upper and lower inner suspension pivots line up with
the inner steering pivot, the upper and lower outer suspension pivots
line up with the outer steering pivot, and the instant centers of the
upper, lower, and steering arms all intersect at the same point.
Instant center is an imaginary line drawn through the center of each
link. They usually intersect about twenty feet from the car. what you
want is for all of them to come together. If you think about it, it's
clear why this recipe would deliver zero bump steer.
The only way to achieve that is to design the suspension that way, but
you can get in the ballpark by moving the rack up and down--at least
you can reduce bump steer within the limited stroke of your suspension
system.
On Sep 29, 2008, at 5:48 PM, rob wrote:
> had a little trouble under bracking this weekend and decided its
> time to try and understand and messure its presant bumpstear. This
> weekends issue was caused buy unequal caster.
>
> I have had good results with setting camber,toe and caster and had
> the set ups varified on a local laser machine.Funny a level floor
> some string and a plumbob can compete with an exspensive alignment
> machine
>
> I would like to get a list of books for info on calculating
> bumpstear and figureing rollcenter. thanks rob Ps
> thanks for the feed back re: phones at lime rock. Seems ATT was good
> but most of the others were not working or spotty
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The best way to understand bump =
steer is to play with some software that simulates roll/bump. Other than =
that, just do some google searches and read online stuff. Most of the =
books I've read don't do a good job--no idea why.<div><br></div><div>The =
most important thing to understand is that you have zero bump =
steer when the upper and lower inner suspension pivots line up with the =
inner steering pivot, the upper and lower outer suspension pivots line =
up with the outer steering pivot, and the instant centers of the upper, =
lower, and steering arms all intersect at the same =
point. </div><div><br></div><div>Instant center is an =
imaginary line drawn through the center of each link. They usually =
intersect about twenty feet from the car. what you want is for all of =
them to come together. If you think about it, it's clear why =
this recipe would deliver zero bump =
steer. </div><div><br></div><div>The only way to achieve that is to =
design the suspension that way, but you can get in =
the ballpark by moving the rack up and down--at least you can =
reduce bump steer within the limited stroke of your =
suspension system. </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On =
Sep 29, 2008, at 5:48 PM, rob wrote:</div><br =
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have had good results with</font><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"> setting camber,toe and caster and had the =
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string and a plumbob can compete with an exspensive alignment =
machine</font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial" =
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