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Re: [Fot] the danger of fire and cool shirt systems

To: <s.janzen@comcast.net>, <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] the danger of fire and cool shirt systems
From: Tony and Annie Garmey <horizonracing@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:42:01 -0700
In 1988, Gerhard Berger Crashed in a Ferrari (F1) and there was a pretty good
fire. The 3rd degree burns he got, were from the sweet in his cotton tee shirt
boiling.



As for arm restraints, I think you will find the most commonly used at dirt
tracks (sprint/midgets) are the slip over the arm type or "D" rings sewn
(spl?) into the sleeves below the elbow with separate tethers. Not the ones
that form a "y" at the tether.Those boys crash the most offen and hard ! I use
the Simpson brand and have done so for past 15 plus years.



cheers

Tony









> From: s.janzen@comcast.net
> To: fot@autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:28:54 -0400
> Subject: [Fot] the danger of fire and cool shirt systems
>
> I've been thinking about getting a Cool Shirt (water cooled shirt
> system) to keep from getting over-heated in my GT6 coupe, which I tend
> to do any time the temperature is over 65. I read this article on the
> Miata fire, and am pondering whether, in the disastrous event of a
> fire, having water which can vaporize into steam, and/or plastic lines
> on the shirt which can melt, near my skin is more hazardous than it's
> worth. Has this ever been addressed - does SCCA allow these systems,
> and if so, how is it reconciled with the requirement to wear fire-
> retardant materials?
>
> On a related thought, I also use arm restraints. One end of these
> slips over the lap belt component of the harness. If I had to make a
> quick exit, these things basically don't just slip off, either from my
> wrists or from the belts. Is there a better way to anchor these? I
> don't like the idea of a window net in lieu of arm restraints because
> it blocks visibility to the side mirror.
>
> On Jun 12, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote:
>
> For any of you who have not seen the article about the guy in the
> Miata and
> the fire escape he made at the 25 hours race at Thunderhill -- you owe
> it to
> yourself to follow the link below and read the article and then prepare
> yourself -- I sure got a good lesson
> Chuck
>
> http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/fighting-fire/
>
>
> Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley
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