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To: "riverside@southslope.net" <riverside@southslope.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue
From: Bill Babcock <billb@bnj.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:57:26 -0700
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This might be obvious but it seems to me that step one is to eliminate the
bypass as a possibility, not just with a better spring, but block it.

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On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:57, "riverside@southslope.net" <
riverside@southslope.net> wrote:

 It is also very hard to measure what you really need to know which is
the clearance across the parting line.   Micrometers and dial bore
gauges to the rescue!

art de armond

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*Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:38 PM
*To:* Andrew Packard <apackard68@att.net>
*Cc:* fot@autox.team.net ; 6pack@autox.team.net
*Subject:* Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue


I learned to never trust plastigauge. .0005 too tight on a race motor and
it's all over with. A street motor may not care though

but still reading plastigauge can be a matter opinion or interpretation
instead of a hard dimension.

Whatever became of the came bearing clearance point I read about, or lack
of cam bearings. That seemed the most plausible.

I also read something about a crack in a main casting that caused similar
symptoms.

jim g





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*From: *"Andrew Packard" <apackard68@att.net>
*To: *6pack@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net
*Sent: *Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:50:26 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Fot] [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

 I'm the guy with the TR250 oil pressure problem.  I replaced my oil
pressure regulator spring with a HD one.  The one I took out measured short
and the new one was longer than spec from Bentley.  It helped, but after I
got well up to temp, pressure disappeared at idle and water boiled over.
I'm travelling for work this week, so I dropped off my car with my mechanic
friend with a new oil pump and some plastic gauge to check the bearing
clearance.  I'll find out the status soon.  This is more than a little
frustrating with Triumphest starting next week.
Andy



  *From:* Yahoo <brucesimms2003@yahoo.ca>
*To:* "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 8:22 AM
*Subject:* [6pack] tr250 oil pressure issue

Did the guy with the oil pressure issue on his new 250 motor ever get this
sorted?  inquiring minds want to know.

I'm hoping to do a repeat on the
San Diego mechanic with (300,000?) miles on his 250 and never did the bottom
end.  In the Triumph magazine article he said he just does regular oil
changes with STP.    I've shaved the head and a hotter cam so I may have
added
additional stress to the engine.  my oil pressure hasn't deteriorated in 16
years of ownerhip.

Cheers,  Bruce Simms 73 tr6

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<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:38 PM</div>
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tt.net">Andrew Packard</a> </div>
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am.net">fot@autox.team.net</a> ; <a title=3D"6pack@autox.team.net" href=3D"=
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