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Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration

To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net, duncan.charlton54@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:44:12 -0400
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and also check the phasing of the U-joints, ie crosses lined-up...
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From: toodamnfunky <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
To: Charlton, Duncan <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration


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Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads like coming of=
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How are your motor and trans mounts?  If they allow the engine/gearbox comb=
o to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could move out =
of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would shift bac=
k into position.  If you put the car on jackstands and run it to this rpm i=
n top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive wheels and tires if=
 you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2=80=99t be much =
load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformation of the mounts=
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On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM,            toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:   =
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I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95-=
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before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Go=
od CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but            =20
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I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed =
vibration diagnosis or detection.            =20
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What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it=
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Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.            =20
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From: toodamnfunky &lt;toodamnfunky@comcast.net&gt;<br>

To: Charlton, Duncan &lt;duncan.charlton54@gmail.com&gt;<br>

Cc: fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>

Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 3:38 pm<br>

Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration<br>

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Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads like coming of=
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However the trans mount is worth looking in to. I'll have the driveshaft ou=
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just in case. I hope the problem is that or the trans mount.&nbsp;
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How are your motor and trans mounts? &nbsp;If they allow the engine/gearbox=
 combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could move=
 out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would shif=
t back into position. &nbsp;If you put the car on jackstands and run it to =
this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive wheels an=
d tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2=80=99=
t be much load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformation of =
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I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95-=
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before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Go=
od CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but
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I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed =
vibration diagnosis or detection.
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What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it=
 sitting on my bench.=20
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