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To: Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing rod design
From: Aaron <hpspitfire@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:19:49 -0700
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Love the add

"Buy wiht confidence"

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> On Jul 22, 2015, at 17:05, Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Are these the Ebay rods that have been discussed?
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Connecting-Rods-for-Triumph-TR3-TR4-Forged-Conrods=
-Con-Rod-158-75mm-ARP-Bolts-/131562025540?hash=3Ditem1ea1b53244&vxp=3Dmtr
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> Any thoughts? The price is certainly attractive...
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> Brad
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>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com> wrot=
e:
>> Hi Guys,
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>> After my engine blow at the last race and a rod in two pieces I investiga=
ted about rod design.
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>> In US forums I found an interesting opinion:
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>> H-beam rods are for low rev high torque engine (turbo, compressor)
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>> I-beam are for medium torque engines with high revs
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>> As engineer I agree with this statement. On high revs the rod shaft gets b=
ended back and forth by the inertia caused by the rotation.
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>> I could imagine that the sharp sides of the H-beam rod will create a crac=
k after a while because the stiffness for bending along the rotation axis sm=
aller than with an I-beam rod.
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>> That means to me that the fatigue resistance is smaller on an H-beam rod a=
t high revs.
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>> With high revs on a long stroke engine I mean 6000+.
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>> The manufacturer of the broken H-beam rod was Scat.
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>> I think next time I order an I-beam rod from Scat.
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>> What do you think?
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>> Cheers
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>> Chris
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Love the add</div><div><br></div><div>=
"Buy wiht confidence"<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 22, 20=
15, at 17:05, Brad Eells &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4abrad@gmail.com";>tr4abrad@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Are these the Ebay rods that have been discussed?<div><br></div><d=
iv><a href=3D"http://www.ebay.com/itm/Connecting-Rods-for-Triumph-TR3-TR4-Fo=
rged-Conrods-Con-Rod-158-75mm-ARP-Bolts-/131562025540?hash=3Ditem1ea1b53244&=
amp;vxp=3Dmtr">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Connecting-Rods-for-Triumph-TR3-TR4-Fo=
rged-Conrods-Con-Rod-158-75mm-ARP-Bolts-/131562025540?hash=3Ditem1ea1b53244&=
amp;vxp=3Dmtr</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Any thoughts? The price is ce=
rtainly attractive...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Brad</div></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 21, 2=
015 at 12:24 PM, MadMarx <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@g=
ooglemail.com" target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"DE" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D=
"purple"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Hi Guys,=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u=
></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;;color:#1f497d">After my engine blow at the last race and a rod in two piec=
es I investigated about rod design.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verd=
ana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">In US for=
ums I found an interesting opinion:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verd=
ana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">H-beam ro=
ds are for low rev high torque engine (turbo, compressor)<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I-beam=
 are for medium torque engines with high revs<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"=
>As engineer I agree with this statement. On high revs the rod shaft gets be=
nded back and forth by the inertia caused by the rotation.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I cou=
ld imagine that the sharp sides of the H-beam rod will create a crack after a=
 while because the stiffness for bending along the rotation axis smaller tha=
n with an I-beam rod.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">That means to me that the fatigue resistan=
ce is smaller on an H-beam rod at high revs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">With high revs on a=
 long stroke engine I mean 6000+.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdan=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">The manufac=
turer of the broken H-beam rod was Scat.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I th=
ink next time I order an I-beam rod from Scat.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d=
">What do you think?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Cheers<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Chris=
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