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I think a lot of the differences between Europe and USA for trailering are w=
ithin trailer design itself. U.S. Designed trailer have a much higher to t=
ongue weight where as axle position of European trailers make them much more=
akin to flat towing a car. And if you look at the world strongest man com=
petition, a single human can pull a 727 around. Throw a bunch of tongue we=
ight on it and it taxes the towing vehicle much much more.=20
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 26, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Marcel Van Mulders <van.mulders.marcel@telen=
et.be> wrote:
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> Strange how (towing) car habits are different in the USA and Europe. You a=
re wondering if a 5 litre turbo V8 diesel will be strong enough, maybe it sh=
ould be a 6.2 or 6.7 litre. In Europe, most towing cars have a 2 litre 4 c=
yl engine, or even as small as a 1.4 litre.The biggest turbodiesel Ford Eur=
ope is offering, has just a 2 litre engine. Idem for Citroen, Renault and Vo=
lkswagen(with the exception of the Touareg). In Europe you can see a lot of 1=
600cc turbodiesels towing a caravan. A BMW 525d has a 2 litre, Mercedes E=
200D, 220D and 250D all have a 2.1 litre 4cyl engine.BMW and Mercedes buyers=
can still get a 3 litre turbodiesel, but they rarely do. Fuel is expensive i=
n Europe and car taxes are rising exponentially with the fuel consumption. Y=
ou in the USA are lucky to be able to drive full size cars with full size en=
gines. In Europe, the engines get smaller and smaller. Almost all VW Golfs a=
re sold with a tiny 1.2 litre or 1.4 litre engine. In Europe a 1.6 litre is =
called a big engine in a VW Golf. Maybe in the USA 1.6 litre can do in a V-=
Twin bike, but only just?
> Marcel.
> =20
> Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens marty
> Verzonden: vrijdag 24 juli 2015 18:16
> Aan: FOT
> Onderwerp: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)
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> I have been checking out the new F-150's a bit. According to the specs, wi=
th the max-tow package they are within a few pounds of the tow capacity of t=
he F-250's. Since I only heavy tow a few times a year the gas savings throu=
ghout the rest of the year compared to the F-250 would be substantial as I p=
ut on about 250 miles per week just going to work and back. Is anybody on th=
e list towing any weight with one of these new ones? How=E2=80=99s is it wor=
king out for you?
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> =20
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> Marty
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n style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Since I only heavy tow a few tim=
es a=20
year the gas savings throughout the rest of the year compared to the F-250 w=
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be substantial as I put on about 250 miles per week just going to work and b=
ack.=20
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=99s is it=20
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