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Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)

To: davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)
From: Dean Vandecarr <vandecarr@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:25:03 -0400
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I have been towing with a 2011 f150 with the 3.5 eco boost engine. It is by f=
ar the best towing vehicle I have had. It has 77,000 miles with 17,000  mile=
s towing an enclosed trailer weighing about 5,000 lbs.  The only repairs hav=
e been a set of brakes, tires and I just had to replace the spark plugs.  Tu=
rbos are still working fine. I bought the truck for towing the fuel economy i=
s a bonus. The key to towing is torque. The Eco boost doesn't work harder th=
an a larger V8 because it has 420 ft/lbs at 2500 rpms. That's more torque th=
an the 5.7 hemi and the 5.0 ford. Most of the time towing I am  crusing arou=
nd 75-80 at 1500,  Pulling the trailer up from Georgia rt 81 with major hill=
s we were crusing around 75 and never exceeded 3,000 rpm.  With old Dakota w=
ith the V8 I had to take an alternate route because it couldn't take the hil=
ls. I am a little concerned about the new aluminum body and would wait to se=
e how that plays out. But the drive train in this truck is awesome.

Dean VanDeCarr

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 26, 2015, at 11:43 AM, davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
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> The Ecoboost has to work harder than the V8 and the fuel savings is minima=
l.  I'll take a V8 over the turbo six.  The V8 gets better fuel mileage than=
 my Toyota Tacoma and can tow a house.  Nice thing about the Toyota is it ha=
s great resale value.  My '02 with 85K miles has a value close to $17K if no=
t more and people will be lining up for it. =20
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> Dave
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> From: "Bob Kramer" <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
> To: "davehogye" <dlhogye@comcast.net>
> Cc: "Jeff Snook" <jeffsnook01@gmail.com>, "Friends of Triumph" <fot@autox.=
team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:21:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)
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> Somebody has said elsewhere that turbo life is expected to be in the 80k r=
ange, and it will be an expensive maintenance item.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 25, 2015, at 4:36 PM, davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
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> The new aluminum truck is said to weigh 700lbs. less than the last steel v=
ersion.  That's a lot of weight off during daily driving routines and the to=
wing and payload has gone up.  Sounds good to me.  I built a SuperCrew FX4 v=
ersion on line, no leather or sunroof thank you, and got the price up to $46=
K.  Now they are offering up to $8K in discounts and incentives.  It's sound=
ing better every day.
> I read an article recently that discusses the improvements on 1/2 ton truc=
ks that bring them up to 3/4 ton levels from just a few years ago.
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> Dave H.
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> From: "Jeff Snook" <jeffsnook01@gmail.com>
> To: fot@autox.team.net
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:25:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)
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> We've got a customer with a new aluminum F150.  He loves it.  Says it tows=
 a
> 7K lb. trailer and doesn't even know it's there! =20
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> Sweet truck, but stickered for $60K!!!!!
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> Jeff Snook
> http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
> 419-344-0319 (Mobile)
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I have been towing with a 2011 f150 wi=
th the 3.5 eco boost engine. It is by far the best towing vehicle I have had=
. It has 77,000 miles with 17,000 &nbsp;miles towing an enclosed trailer wei=
ghing about 5,000 lbs. &nbsp;The only repairs have been a set of brakes, tir=
es and I just had to replace the spark plugs. &nbsp;Turbos are still working=
 fine. I bought the truck for towing the fuel economy is a bonus. The key to=
 towing is torque. The Eco boost doesn't work harder than a larger V8 becaus=
e it has 420 ft/lbs at 2500 rpms. That's more torque than the 5.7 hemi and t=
he 5.0 ford. Most of the time towing I am &nbsp;crusing around 75-80 at 1500=
, &nbsp;Pulling the trailer up from Georgia rt 81 with major hills we were c=
rusing around 75 and never exceeded 3,000 rpm. &nbsp;With old Dakota with th=
e V8 I had to take an alternate route because it couldn't take the hills. I a=
m a little concerned about the new aluminum body and would wait to see how t=
hat plays out. But the drive train in this truck is awesome.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Dean VanDeCarr<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jul 26, 2=
015, at 11:43 AM, davehogye &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net";>dlhog=
ye@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div aria-l=
abel=3D"Compose body">The Ecoboost has to work harder than the V8 and the fu=
el savings is minimal. &nbsp;I'll take a V8 over the turbo six. &nbsp;The V8=
 gets better fuel mileage than my Toyota Tacoma and can tow a house. &nbsp;N=
ice thing about the Toyota is it has great resale value. &nbsp;My '02 with 8=
5K miles has a value close to $17K if not more and people will be lining up f=
or it. &nbsp;</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-labe=
l=3D"Compose body">Dave</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"c=
olor:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-fam=
ily:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #00=
0; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-fami=
ly: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Bob Kramer" &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com";>rkramer3@austin.rr.com</a>&gt;<=
br><b>To: </b>"davehogye" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net";>dlhogye=
@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"Jeff Snook" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffsn=
ook01@gmail.com">jeffsnook01@gmail.com</a>&gt;, "Friends of Triumph" &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b=
>Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:21:07 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-=
150)<br><div><br></div><div>Somebody has said elsewhere that turbo life is e=
xpected to be in the 80k range, and it will be an expensive maintenance item=
.<br><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 25, 2015, at 4:=
36 PM, davehogye &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net";>dlhogye@comcast.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br><div><br></div></div><blockquote><div><div style=3D"font-family: Ar=
ial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Arial; f=
ont-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div>The new aluminum truck is said to weig=
h 700lbs. less than the last steel version. &nbsp;That's a lot of weight off=
 during daily driving routines and the towing and payload has gone up. &nbsp=
;Sounds good to me. &nbsp;I built a SuperCrew FX4 version on line, no leathe=
r or sunroof thank you, and got the price up to $46K. &nbsp;Now they are off=
ering up to $8K in discounts and incentives. &nbsp;It's sounding better ever=
y day.</div><div>I read an article recently that discusses the improvements o=
n 1/2 ton trucks that bring them up to 3/4 ton levels from just a few years a=
go.</div><div><br></div><div>Dave H.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-wei=
ght:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Aria=
l,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: no=
rmal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Aria=
l,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Jeff Snook" &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:jeffsnook01@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:jeffsno=
ok01@gmail.com">jeffsnook01@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.te=
am.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:25=
:34 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Fot] Towing (New F-150)<br><div><br></div>We'=
ve got a customer with a new aluminum F150. &nbsp;He loves it. &nbsp;Says it=
 tows a<br>7K lb. trailer and doesn't even know it's there! &nbsp;<br><div><=
br></div>Sweet truck, but stickered for $60K!!!!!<br><div><br></div>Jeff Sno=
ok<br><a href=3D"http://www.snooksdreamcars.com"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-=
href=3D"http://www.snooksdreamcars.com";>http://www.snooksdreamcars.com</a><b=
r>419-344-0319 (Mobile)<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>_______________=
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