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Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

To: Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
From: <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 23:12:05 +0000
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Greg,

I haven't heard from anyone that uses them. I did look through their web page 
and I suspect that it would be an upcharge.

Bob Kramer
rkramer3@austin.rr.com

---- Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com> wrote: 
> Sounds like a deal considering what we pay Dennis these days which does not 
> include the nitriding process. 
> 
> Can you specify bearing clearances and radius treatment?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:46 AM, rkramer3@austin.rr.com wrote:
> > 
> > Does anyone have experience with APT nitrided cranks? They list a fully 
> > race prepped and nitrided 6 cylinder crank at just under a grand.
> > Bob Kramer
> > rkramer3@austin.rr.com
> > 
> > ---- Brian Schirano <bschirano@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> >> 2 Cents from a modest built GT6 racer (IE 10:1 CR, stock rods, crank, Good 
> >> GP3 cam, etc).  Russ's comments are dead on - building the car is one 
> >> expense, racing it is a recurring one and his estimate of $1000 per event 
> >> is good. So build in margin of safety in the motor (and other components) 
> >> where you can.
> >> aluminum flywheel and clutch & PP I went to Ted Shumaker, TSI - TS Imports
> >> RE the rods - at the time of my first (only) rebuild a couple years ago I 
> >> couldn't afford carrillos or Pauters, but did spend some long green on 
> >> nitriding and polishing the crank, balancing everything, and of course the 
> >> ARP hardware everywhere that counts . My car is NOT a high rev machine, I 
> >> self limit at 6200 - 6300 RPM and it seems all the straights are uphill so 
> >> she never redlines there anywise!
> >> So to me, it can be done, but has to be consistent with the rest of your 
> >> build. my next build will be a higher CR and hotter cam, so will be 
> >> upgrading rods, and pistons as well. But the first build was built 
> >> conservative for longevity.
> >> Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
> >> 585-305-0349 Cell 
> >> BSchirano@yahoo.com
> >>      From: Spitfire Racing <spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com>
> >> To: 'Jamie' <tr6driver@yahoo.com>; 'McKearn McKearn' <mckearn2@gmail.com> 
> >> Cc: 'FOT list' <fot@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
> >> 
> >> A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investment 
> >> not
> >> only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch 
> >> pennies?
> >> After all, with the exception of pistons and crank that is one of the
> >> primary components and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce
> >> all your work and investment to nothing more than scrap metal. One seized
> >> valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much.
> >> Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk like 
> >> a
> >> weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off 
> >> from
> >> work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race
> >> outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually advise
> >> folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all in.
> >> 
> >> A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and these
> >> do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild 
> >> an
> >> engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and were
> >> well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far too 
> >> many
> >> Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fail to
> >> come close to the parts they try to mimic. 
> >> I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows for top
> >> quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and reduce the
> >> potential for disappointing expensive disaster.
> >> 
> >> Russ Moore
> >> Spitfire #49
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jamie
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM
> >> To: McKearn McKearn
> >> Cc: FOT list
> >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
> >> 
> >> Although I was initially very wary, they have worked well for over 1,000
> >> race miles in our (horror) MGB engine.
> >> 
> >> Jamie Palmer
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:52 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Gents.
> >>>     I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.
> >> Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still
> >> searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. 
> >> and
> >> would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a 
> >> race
> >> car for the sake of argument....
> >>>                                 Thanks.  P.J.
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