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Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions

To: Bob Kramer <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions
From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:38:51 -0500
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I=E2=80=99ve heard people say not to use the felt (using strips of =
torn-up T-shirt soaked in Indian Head shellac instead, packing it in =
with a punch) but never yet heard anyone say not to use Indian Head.  =
I=E2=80=99m curious too.

Duncan Charlton
Elgin, Texas USA



> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Bob Kramer <rkramer3@austin.rr.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> OK, I=E2=80=99ll bite, what not use the Indian Head sealant? I=E2=80=99v=
e had good luck with that, although I fill the very top (actually =
bottom) of the cap recess with RTV.
> =20
> =20
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:37 AM
> To: STEPHEN BOROWSKI
> Cc: FOT List
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions
> =20
> I also have the center plug hole on the main oil galley tapped to =
install an NPT adapter for the oil line from my accumulator.=20
> Have the shop check the alignment of the mains and line hone if =
necessary.
> Machine the center main cap to install a reinforcing strap.
> Bottom tap all head stud holes.
> Remove and tap the front and rear main oil galley plugs for flush-fit =
NPT fittings. Have this done on the cylinder head cooling plug.
> Remove the crank scroll and install a rear main seal conversion. Do =
not use Indian Head Shellac on the felt seals.
> Grind unnecessary casting material from the inside and outside of the =
block, particularly in the cooling areas.=20
> If needed, clean up the mating surfaces for the liner gaskets.=20
> =20
> =20
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:13 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI =
> Hello All,
> I disassembled my TR4 race car engine this past week. Last time I =
rebuilt it was 1987. Last time I raced it was 1988. Probably had five or =
six race weekends on the engine but its been sitting for almost twenty =
years! It is amazing everything looks very good. Rod and Main bearings =
show minimal ware and the same with the pistons and liners. G3 cam and =
followers including head and valves all look good. Cam bearings look =
questionable...
> =20
> So I plan on installing new cam bearings, Rods & Mains. Any =
suggestions as to what brand and where to buy them?
> I will deck the block. Any suggestions as to other machining I should =
do to the block?=20
> =20
> The crank looks fine but I haven't measured it yet. What clearances =
should I run?
> I do plan on balancing and polishing it.
> =20
> Thanks for any input.
> =20
> Steve and son Matthew
> Florida TR4
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve heard people say not to use the felt (using =
strips of torn-up T-shirt soaked in Indian Head shellac instead, packing =
it in with a punch) but never yet heard anyone say not to use Indian =
Head. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m curious too.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Duncan Charlton</div><div class=3D"">Elgin, Texas =
USA</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">

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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Bob Kramer &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com"; =
class=3D"">rkramer3@austin.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">OK, I=E2=80=99ll bite, what not use the =
Indian Head sealant? I=E2=80=99ve had good luck with that, although I =
fill the very top (actually bottom) of the cap recess with RTV.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"border-style: solid =
none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>John =
Styduhar<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:37 =
AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>STEPHEN BOROWSKI<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>FOT List<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work =
suggestions<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">I also have the =
center plug hole on the main oil galley tapped to install an NPT adapter =
for the oil line from my accumulator.&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Have the shop check the alignment of the mains and line hone =
if necessary.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Machine the center main cap to install a =
reinforcing strap.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Bottom tap all head stud holes.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Remove and tap the front and rear main oil galley plugs for =
flush-fit NPT fittings. Have this done on the cylinder head cooling =
plug.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Remove the crank scroll and install a =
rear main seal conversion. Do not use Indian Head Shellac on the felt =
seals.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Grind unnecessary casting material from =
the inside and outside of the block, particularly in the cooling =
areas.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">If needed, clean up the mating surfaces =
for the liner gaskets.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 =
at 4:13 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:biznzman@pacbell.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">biznzman@pacbell.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hello All,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; background-color: white;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I disassembled my =
TR4 race car engine this past week. Last time I rebuilt it was 1987. =
Last time I raced it was 1988. Probably had five or six race =
weekends&nbsp;on the engine but its been sitting for almost twenty =
years!&nbsp;It is amazing everything looks very good. Rod and Main =
bearings show minimal ware and the same with the pistons and liners. G3 =
cam and followers including head and valves all look good. Cam bearings =
look questionable...<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">So I plan on installing new cam bearings, Rods &amp; Mains. =
Any suggestions as to what brand and where to buy them?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; background-color: white;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I will deck the =
block. Any suggestions as to other machining I should do to the =
block?<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; background-color: white;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">The crank looks fine but I haven't measured it yet. What =
clearances should I run?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">I do plan on balancing and polishing it.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; background-color: white;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; background-color: white;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Thanks for any input.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
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