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Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Gearbox
From: fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 19:07:10 +0000 (UTC)
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 Different prefix letters in the ##, F =3D spit, K =3D GT-6.Among the diffe=
rences besides tooth count, they also changed the tooth profile/angle, main=
shaft, 1st motion etc.Cases are the same, at least up to the single rail bo=
x.
Glen
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From: Brian Schirano <bschirano@yahoo.com>
To: tr4abrad <tr4abrad@gmail.com>; Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Gearbox


good to know on the trans cases. similarly, are the Spit and GT diff cases =
the same/interchangeable?
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0
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    On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 12:42:32 PM GMT-5, Jason Sukey via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 Brad,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Externally, the GT6 and Spitfire boxes will look =
the same.=C2=A0 I believe the case is interchangeable, it's just that you h=
ave to use ALL GT6 gears, or ALL Spitfire gears, no mix and match.=C2=A0 GT=
6 has the close ratios.
The GT6 input shaft has to be shortened to be used in a Spitfire, and the s=
pline count is different.
Jason
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:21 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:

Interesting...I received three gearboxes with my Spitfire.=C2=A0
In the car is an overdrive box. The other two are standard 4 speed Spitfire=
 boxes; one labeled =E2=80=98wide=E2=80=99, the other =E2=80=98close=E2=80=
=99.
Now you have me wondering what=E2=80=99s inside??
How did they build different ratio boxes back in the day?

Brad EellsSent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2018, at 8:30 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:


 No you can't just change a couple gears, the GT-6 uses completely differen=
t bits, and there are 2 different GT-6 boxes, most parts not interchangeabl=
e.
Glen
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From: Mathieu W. Huovinen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 10:38 am
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Gearbox

Triumph Friends,Now that we've all worked out the oil cooler/filter issue, =
who wants to take a crack at Spitfire gearbox ideas?? I currently have a 12=
96 engine bolted up to a 1500 single rail gearbox. This year after the Kast=
ner Cup, Marty Sukey suggested finding at GT6 gearbox as they have a closer=
 ratio gear set - I think I even remember reading that some of the LeMans S=
pitfires had GT6 gearboxes. I'm having a difficult time finding one so I wa=
s going to ask the folks that have been this a lot longer than me, is it po=
ssible to just put GT6 gears (specifically 2nd and 3rd) into a 1500 Spit ge=
arbox? Has anyone tried? Are there better options? I have two extra 1500 si=
ngle rail boxes to mess with. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!M. Huov=
inen
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<div> <font size=3D"2">Different prefix letters in the ##, F =3D spit, K =
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<div><font size=3D"2">Among the differences besides tooth count, they also =
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<div><font size=3D"2">Cases are the same, at least up to the single rail bo=
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<div>good to know on the trans cases. similarly, are the Spit and GT diff c=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Brad,

<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Externally, the GT6 and Spitfire boxes will look t=
he same.&nbsp; I believe the case is interchangeable, it's just that you ha=
ve to use ALL GT6 gears, or ALL Spitfire gears, no mix and match.&nbsp; GT6=
 has the close ratios.</div>



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<div>The GT6 input shaft has to be shortened to be used in a Spitfire, and =
the spline count is different.</div>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:21 PM Brad Eells via Fot &lt;<a=
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<div>Interesting...I received three gearboxes with my Spitfire.&nbsp;

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<div>In the car is an overdrive box. The other two are standard 4 speed Spi=
tfire boxes; one labeled =E2=80=98wide=E2=80=99, the other =E2=80=98close=
=E2=80=99.</div>



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<div>Now you have me wondering what=E2=80=99s inside??</div>



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<div>How did they build different ratio boxes back in the day?<br clear=3D"=
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<div>Sent from my iPhone</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On Dec 13, 2018, at 8:30 AM, fubog1 via=
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<div> <font size=3D"2">No you can't just change a couple gears, the GT-6 us=
es completely different bits, and there are 2 different GT-6 boxes, most pa=
rts not interchangeable.</font></div>





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<div dir=3D"ltr">Triumph Friends,</div>






<div dir=3D"ltr">Now that we've all worked out the oil cooler/filter issue,=
 who wants to take a crack at Spitfire gearbox ideas?? I currently have a 1=
296 engine bolted up to a 1500 single rail gearbox. This year after the Kas=
tner Cup, Marty Sukey suggested finding at GT6 gearbox as they have a close=
r ratio gear set - I think I even remember reading that some of the LeMans =
Spitfires had GT6 gearboxes. I'm having a difficult time finding one so I w=
as going to ask the folks that have been this a lot longer than me, is it p=
ossible to just put GT6 gears (specifically 2nd and 3rd) into a 1500 Spit g=
earbox? Has anyone tried? Are there better options? I have two extra 1500 s=
ingle rail boxes to mess with. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!</div>






<div dir=3D"ltr">M. Huovinen<br clear=3D"none">

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