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To: Alan Berry <alanb@alanberrydesign.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cleaning Out My Shop - Give Away
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 16:27:31 +0000 (UTC)
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 I don't have any heads, but I'll bet someone on the FOT list knows where t=
here is one.
Jack

    On Tuesday, November 5, 2019, 11:16:21 AM EST, Alan Berry <alanb@alanbe=
rrydesign.com> wrote: =20
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 Need a TR4 head for my race car. Any thoughts?
Thanks,=C2=A0
Alan #41 TR4A
On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 7:57 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:

I've been going through my shop, getting rid of many things for which I wil=
l have no need in the future.
By the mid-80's, when I was racing the TR-4 in SCCA, I was using a crank tr=
igger for my primary ignition system.=C2=A0 I also tried to have a reliable=
 back-up, which up until then had been a stock distributor with Lucas Point=
s.=C2=A0 But, of course, I never adjusted the points, so when I needed the =
back-up one time, the car wouldn't run right on the stock distributor.
Shortly after that, I was on the phone one night talking with Paul Trapp, w=
ho I'm sure some of you know.=C2=A0 He was a real genius with all kinds of =
engines (also dynoed my TR engine a few times).=C2=A0 He mentioned that he =
had used a Datsun electronic distributor as a backup in some of the cars he=
 had worked on.=C2=A0 The model he used came in the B210 and a number of ot=
her Datsun/Nissan small sedans.=C2=A0 While we were on the phone, he had me=
 get a stock Triumph distributor and a dial caliper.=C2=A0 He had the Datsu=
n distributor.=C2=A0 We took measurements of the key dimensions of the two =
distributors, and they were nearly identical.=C2=A0 The diameter of the sha=
ft that goes down into the block was exactly the same, and the length of th=
at shaft was very close, such that a thin (about 1/4") shim was all that wa=
s required to get the correct height for the Triumph.
>From then on, I used the Datsun electronic distributor as my backup, and th=
e performance was essentially the same as the crank trigger.=C2=A0 The only=
 modification required was to change the drive gear on the end of the shaft=
, and I had to make up a shim to get the correct height.=C2=A0 An easy conv=
ersion.=C2=A0 Paul drew up a wiring diagram which showed how to wire up the=
 dual system.

When I was sorting through some parts the other day, I came across a spare =
lead that Paul had made up for me, that plugs into the Datsun distributor, =
and with a few feet of wire to attach to the ignition box.=C2=A0 I used a s=
tock Chrysler brain box, which cost $25 at the time.=C2=A0 Some people us a=
n MSD, etc.=C2=A0 Paul's workmanship was very professional, as indicated in=
 the attached pictures.
I hate to throw anything away, especially something that was made up specif=
ically for me.=C2=A0 So, if anyone has a use for this connecting wire, let =
me know, and you can have it.=C2=A0 I will even pay the shipping (to the lo=
wer 48).=C2=A0 I believe it will work for most Datsun/Nissan small sedan di=
stributors produced in the 80's and early 90's, and perhaps more.
Jack
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I don't have any heads, but =
I'll bet someone on the FOT list knows where there is one.</div><div dir=3D=
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">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Tuesday, November 5, 2019, 11:16:21 AM EST, Alan Ber=
ry &lt;alanb@alanberrydesign.com&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp5689a2e7yiv5187482751"><div><div>Need a =
TR4 head for my race car. Any thoughts?<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>T=
hanks,&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Alan #41 TR4A</div></d=
iv><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp5689a2e7yiv5187482751gmail_quote"><d=
iv class=3D"ydp5689a2e7yiv5187482751yqt1854290411" id=3D"ydp5689a2e7yiv5187=
482751yqt37800"><div class=3D"ydp5689a2e7yiv5187482751gmail_attr" dir=3D"lt=
r">On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 7:57 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"y=
dp5689a2e7yiv5187482751gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">I've b=
een going through my shop, getting rid of many things for which I will have=
 no need in the future.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">By the mid-80's, when I was racing the TR-4 in SCCA, I was usi=
ng a crank trigger for my primary ignition system.&nbsp; I also tried to ha=
ve a reliable back-up, which up until then had been a stock distributor wit=
h Lucas Points.&nbsp; But, of course, I never adjusted the points, so when =
I needed the back-up one time, the car wouldn't run right on the stock dist=
ributor.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sh=
ortly after that, I was on the phone one night talking with Paul Trapp, who=
 I'm sure some of you know.&nbsp; He was a real genius with all kinds of en=
gines (also dynoed my TR engine a few times).&nbsp; He mentioned that he ha=
d used a Datsun electronic distributor as a backup in some of the cars he h=
ad worked on.&nbsp; The model he used came in the B210 and a number of othe=
r Datsun/Nissan small sedans.&nbsp; While we were on the phone, he had me g=
et a stock Triumph distributor and a dial caliper.&nbsp; He had the Datsun =
distributor.&nbsp; We took measurements of the key dimensions of the two di=
stributors, and they were nearly identical.&nbsp; The diameter of the shaft=
 that goes down into the block was exactly the same, and the length of that=
 shaft was very close, such that a thin (about 1/4") shim was all that was =
required to get the correct height for the Triumph.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From then on, I used the Datsun el=
ectronic distributor as my backup, and the performance was essentially the =
same as the crank trigger.&nbsp; The only modification required was to chan=
ge the drive gear on the end of the shaft, and I had to make up a shim to g=
et the correct height.&nbsp; An easy conversion.&nbsp; Paul drew up a wirin=
g diagram which showed how to wire up the dual system.<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">When I was s=
orting through some parts the other day, I came across a spare lead that Pa=
ul had made up for me, that plugs into the Datsun distributor, and with a f=
ew feet of wire to attach to the ignition box.&nbsp; I used a stock Chrysle=
r brain box, which cost $25 at the time.&nbsp; Some people us an MSD, etc.&=
nbsp; Paul's workmanship was very professional, as indicated in the attache=
d pictures.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>I hate to throw anything away, especially something that was made up speci=
fically for me.&nbsp; So, if anyone has a use for this connecting wire, let=
 me know, and you can have it.&nbsp; I will even pay the shipping (to the l=
ower 48).&nbsp; I believe it will work for most Datsun/Nissan small sedan d=
istributors produced in the 80's and early 90's, and perhaps more.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"no=
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