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To: Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cleaning Out My Shop - Give Away
From: Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:09:45 -0600
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Where does one buy twisted pair wire like that?


Bob Kramer


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I've been going through my shop, getting rid of many things for which I
> will have no need in the future.
>
> By the mid-80's, when I was racing the TR-4 in SCCA, I was using a crank
> trigger for my primary ignition system.  I also tried to have a reliable
> back-up, which up until then had been a stock distributor with Lucas
> Points.  But, of course, I never adjusted the points, so when I needed the
> back-up one time, the car wouldn't run right on the stock distributor.
>
> Shortly after that, I was on the phone one night talking with Paul Trapp,
> who I'm sure some of you know.  He was a real genius with all kinds of
> engines (also dynoed my TR engine a few times).  He mentioned that he had
> used a Datsun electronic distributor as a backup in some of the cars he had
> worked on.  The model he used came in the B210 and a number of other
> Datsun/Nissan small sedans.  While we were on the phone, he had me get a
> stock Triumph distributor and a dial caliper.  He had the Datsun
> distributor.  We took measurements of the key dimensions of the two
> distributors, and they were nearly identical.  The diameter of the shaft
> that goes down into the block was exactly the same, and the length of that
> shaft was very close, such that a thin (about 1/4") shim was all that was
> required to get the correct height for the Triumph.
>
> From then on, I used the Datsun electronic distributor as my backup, and
> the performance was essentially the same as the crank trigger.  The only
> modification required was to change the drive gear on the end of the shaft,
> and I had to make up a shim to get the correct height.  An easy
> conversion.  Paul drew up a wiring diagram which showed how to wire up the
> dual system.
>
> When I was sorting through some parts the other day, I came across a spare
> lead that Paul had made up for me, that plugs into the Datsun distributor,
> and with a few feet of wire to attach to the ignition box.  I used a stock
> Chrysler brain box, which cost $25 at the time.  Some people us an MSD,
> etc.  Paul's workmanship was very professional, as indicated in the
> attached pictures.
>
> I hate to throw anything away, especially something that was made up
> specifically for me.  So, if anyone has a use for this connecting wire, let
> me know, and you can have it.  I will even pay the shipping (to the lower
> 48).  I believe it will work for most Datsun/Nissan small sedan
> distributors produced in the 80's and early 90's, and perhaps more.
>
> Jack
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Where does one buy twisted pair wire like that?=C2=A0<div>=
<br></div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signa=
ture" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div><=
/div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-=
size:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been going through my shop, getting ri=
d of many things for which I will have no need in the future.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">By the mid-80&#39;s, when I was racing =
the TR-4 in SCCA, I was using a crank trigger for my primary ignition syste=
m.=C2=A0 I also tried to have a reliable back-up, which up until then had b=
een a stock distributor with Lucas Points.=C2=A0 But, of course, I never ad=
justed the points, so when I needed the back-up one time, the car wouldn&#3=
9;t run right on the stock distributor.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Shortly after that, I was on the phone one night talking with=
 Paul Trapp, who I&#39;m sure some of you know.=C2=A0 He was a real genius =
with all kinds of engines (also dynoed my TR engine a few times).=C2=A0 He =
mentioned that he had used a Datsun electronic distributor as a backup in s=
ome of the cars he had worked on.=C2=A0 The model he used came in the B210 =
and a number of other Datsun/Nissan small sedans.=C2=A0 While we were on th=
e phone, he had me get a stock Triumph distributor and a dial caliper.=C2=
=A0 He had the Datsun distributor.=C2=A0 We took measurements of the key di=
mensions of the two distributors, and they were nearly identical.=C2=A0 The=
 diameter of the shaft that goes down into the block was exactly the same, =
and the length of that shaft was very close, such that a thin (about 1/4&qu=
ot;) shim was all that was required to get the correct height for the Trium=
ph.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From then on, I used t=
he Datsun electronic distributor as my backup, and the performance was esse=
ntially the same as the crank trigger.=C2=A0 The only modification required=
 was to change the drive gear on the end of the shaft, and I had to make up=
 a shim to get the correct height.=C2=A0 An easy conversion.=C2=A0 Paul dre=
w up a wiring diagram which showed how to wire up the dual system.<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">When I was sorting through som=
e parts the other day, I came across a spare lead that Paul had made up for=
 me, that plugs into the Datsun distributor, and with a few feet of wire to=
 attach to the ignition box.=C2=A0 I used a stock Chrysler brain box, which=
 cost $25 at the time.=C2=A0 Some people us an MSD, etc.=C2=A0 Paul&#39;s w=
orkmanship was very professional, as indicated in the attached pictures.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I hate to throw anything awa=
y, especially something that was made up specifically for me.=C2=A0 So, if =
anyone has a use for this connecting wire, let me know, and you can have it=
.=C2=A0 I will even pay the shipping (to the lower 48).=C2=A0 I believe it =
will work for most Datsun/Nissan small sedan distributors produced in the 8=
0&#39;s and early 90&#39;s, and perhaps more.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br></div></div></div>_____________________________=
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