fot
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Fot] Cleaning Out My Shop - Give Away

To: robert bownes <bownes@web9.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cleaning Out My Shop - Give Away
From: Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:20:24 -0600
Cc: FOT List <fot@autox.team.net>
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: fot@autox.team.net
References: <2125914949.1602355.1572968725006.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2125914949.1602355.1572968725006@mail.yahoo.com> <CABFvdWvVz7qNb8fkHc3BB4-uiDxf0VG3pGzuozwT2B+BRMg+VA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ1+nOScHYNwuVEXwdZ574Bp_=Rd713khFUyxHexmTf-cbDmUg@mail.gmail.com>
--===============2452925627310620012==

--00000000000088c27605969d7eaa

I guess that would do it. But that stuff in Jack's picture looks like it
might have some kind of gluing to it based on the cut off end.

Bob Kramer


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:10 PM robert bownes <bownes@web9.com> wrote:

> You buy stranded wire, lay out and cut two pieces, chuck one end up in a
> hand drill, the other end in a vise and twist it. :)
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 11:19 AM Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Where does one buy twisted pair wire like that?
>>
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been going through my shop, getting rid of many things for which I
>>> will have no need in the future.
>>>
>>> By the mid-80's, when I was racing the TR-4 in SCCA, I was using a crank
>>> trigger for my primary ignition system.  I also tried to have a reliable
>>> back-up, which up until then had been a stock distributor with Lucas
>>> Points.  But, of course, I never adjusted the points, so when I needed the
>>> back-up one time, the car wouldn't run right on the stock distributor.
>>>
>>> Shortly after that, I was on the phone one night talking with Paul
>>> Trapp, who I'm sure some of you know.  He was a real genius with all kinds
>>> of engines (also dynoed my TR engine a few times).  He mentioned that he
>>> had used a Datsun electronic distributor as a backup in some of the cars he
>>> had worked on.  The model he used came in the B210 and a number of other
>>> Datsun/Nissan small sedans.  While we were on the phone, he had me get a
>>> stock Triumph distributor and a dial caliper.  He had the Datsun
>>> distributor.  We took measurements of the key dimensions of the two
>>> distributors, and they were nearly identical.  The diameter of the shaft
>>> that goes down into the block was exactly the same, and the length of that
>>> shaft was very close, such that a thin (about 1/4") shim was all that was
>>> required to get the correct height for the Triumph.
>>>
>>> From then on, I used the Datsun electronic distributor as my backup, and
>>> the performance was essentially the same as the crank trigger.  The only
>>> modification required was to change the drive gear on the end of the shaft,
>>> and I had to make up a shim to get the correct height.  An easy
>>> conversion.  Paul drew up a wiring diagram which showed how to wire up the
>>> dual system.
>>>
>>> When I was sorting through some parts the other day, I came across a
>>> spare lead that Paul had made up for me, that plugs into the Datsun
>>> distributor, and with a few feet of wire to attach to the ignition box.  I
>>> used a stock Chrysler brain box, which cost $25 at the time.  Some people
>>> us an MSD, etc.  Paul's workmanship was very professional, as indicated in
>>> the attached pictures.
>>>
>>> I hate to throw anything away, especially something that was made up
>>> specifically for me.  So, if anyone has a use for this connecting wire, let
>>> me know, and you can have it.  I will even pay the shipping (to the lower
>>> 48).  I believe it will work for most Datsun/Nissan small sedan
>>> distributors produced in the 80's and early 90's, and perhaps more.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot@autox.team.net
>>>
>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage <http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage>:
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> fot@autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
>> Unsubscribe/Manage <http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage>:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com
>>
>>
>>

--00000000000088c27605969d7eaa
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr">I guess that would do it. But that stuff in Jack&#39;s pic=
ture looks like it might have some kind of gluing to it based on the cut of=
f end.<div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature=
" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div=
></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:10 PM robert bownes &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:bownes@web9.com";>bownes@web9.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>You buy st=
randed wire, lay out and cut two pieces, chuck one end up in a hand drill, =
the other end in a vise and twist it. :)</div><div><br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 5,=
 2019 at 11:19 AM Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Where does one buy=
 twisted pair wire like that?=C2=A0<div><br></div><div><br clear=3D"all"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size=
:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been going through my shop, getting rid of=
 many things for which I will have no need in the future.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">By the mid-80&#39;s, when I was racing the =
TR-4 in SCCA, I was using a crank trigger for my primary ignition system.=
=C2=A0 I also tried to have a reliable back-up, which up until then had bee=
n a stock distributor with Lucas Points.=C2=A0 But, of course, I never adju=
sted the points, so when I needed the back-up one time, the car wouldn&#39;=
t run right on the stock distributor.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Shortly after that, I was on the phone one night talking with P=
aul Trapp, who I&#39;m sure some of you know.=C2=A0 He was a real genius wi=
th all kinds of engines (also dynoed my TR engine a few times).=C2=A0 He me=
ntioned that he had used a Datsun electronic distributor as a backup in som=
e of the cars he had worked on.=C2=A0 The model he used came in the B210 an=
d a number of other Datsun/Nissan small sedans.=C2=A0 While we were on the =
phone, he had me get a stock Triumph distributor and a dial caliper.=C2=A0 =
He had the Datsun distributor.=C2=A0 We took measurements of the key dimens=
ions of the two distributors, and they were nearly identical.=C2=A0 The dia=
meter of the shaft that goes down into the block was exactly the same, and =
the length of that shaft was very close, such that a thin (about 1/4&quot;)=
 shim was all that was required to get the correct height for the Triumph.<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From then on, I used the D=
atsun electronic distributor as my backup, and the performance was essentia=
lly the same as the crank trigger.=C2=A0 The only modification required was=
 to change the drive gear on the end of the shaft, and I had to make up a s=
him to get the correct height.=C2=A0 An easy conversion.=C2=A0 Paul drew up=
 a wiring diagram which showed how to wire up the dual system.<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">When I was sorting through some pa=
rts the other day, I came across a spare lead that Paul had made up for me,=
 that plugs into the Datsun distributor, and with a few feet of wire to att=
ach to the ignition box.=C2=A0 I used a stock Chrysler brain box, which cos=
t $25 at the time.=C2=A0 Some people us an MSD, etc.=C2=A0 Paul&#39;s workm=
anship was very professional, as indicated in the attached pictures.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I hate to throw anything away, e=
specially something that was made up specifically for me.=C2=A0 So, if anyo=
ne has a use for this connecting wire, let me know, and you can have it.=C2=
=A0 I will even pay the shipping (to the lower 48).=C2=A0 I believe it will=
 work for most Datsun/Nissan small sedan distributors produced in the 80&#3=
9;s and early 90&#39;s, and perhaps more.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br></div></div></div>_________________________________=
______________<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net<=
/a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.fot-racing.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br>
<br>
et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive"; rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a> <a href=3D"http://www.team.n=
et/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.team.net/pipermail/fot<br>
t/rkramer56@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.te=
am.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56@gmail.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
_______________________________________________<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net<=
/a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.fot-racing.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br>
<br>
et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive"; rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a> <a href=3D"http://www.team.n=
et/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.team.net/pipermail/fot<br>
t/bownes@web9.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.n=
et/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>

--00000000000088c27605969d7eaa--

--===============2452925627310620012==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________
fot@autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot



--===============2452925627310620012==--

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>