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When I was looking I found Worth America and it pulled up red permatex
I was going to start over tonight
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:46 AM Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
> I think Wurth products are sold to direct to the industry channel by rout=
e
> jobbers. I used to get a buddy that owned a paint shop to buy some
> product for me.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:25 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> interesting. A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but
>> not sold directly in the US. As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive her=
e.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <
>> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and hav=
e
>> tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo etc etc.,
>> with none of them totally fixing it
>>
>> unless the crankcase breather blocked, they never really leaked badly
>> there when new (some weeped), so its mostly a result of all the stuff w=
e
>> do to them to make them go faster. certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head
>> does not help, as the edge gets very thin and the clamp force over by th=
e
>> pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no wonder they leak at wors=
t
>> and weep at best . Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big
>> issue to be solved as others have discussed
>>
>> long ago, i changed to using multiple vents/breathers but the biggest
>> improvement was using WURT 250 sealant on every joint , and my last rac=
e
>> 2.5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaske=
ts!!
>>
>> my "secret' is to follow WURT instructions and lay a tiny round bead on
>> the block edge near the pushrods and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes
>> before fitting the head (just enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it
>> and try to smooth it out. By all means , fit the head with whatever
>> "quality" gasket that your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a
>> copper gasket and just re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spra=
y
>> or brush on sealant really works (or is needed) on a conventional head
>> gasket, but some copper ones may benefit
>>
>> we used this WURT 250 sealant in our engine shop for years and all-but
>> eliminated warranty claims for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 25=
0
>> RED is great on triumph gearboxes, and overdrives, again, zero leaks if
>> applied correctly. For the very best result, every surface must be washe=
d
>> with thinners or acetone, and not touched by hands etc thereafter. it h=
as
>> a limited shelf life of about a few weeks once opened , but we used tube=
s
>> of it every week, so that was not an issue.
>>
>> i hope this might assist someone
>>
>> Terry
>> (down under, but not quite as far "down" as geoff Byrne)
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">When I was looking I found Worth America and it pulled up=
red permatex=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">I was going to start over tonigh=
t</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:46 AM Bob Kramer via Fot <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think Wurth products are sold to di=
rect to the industry channel by route jobbers.=C2=A0 I used to get a buddy =
that=C2=A0 owned a paint shop to buy some product for me.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><=
br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 =
at 7:25 AM Scott Janzen via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>interesting. A g=
oogle search indicates this is available in Europe, but not sold directly i=
n the US.=C2=A0 As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive here.<div><br></div>=
<div>Scott<br><div><br><div>On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road &=
; Track via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
rel=3D"noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaki=
ng triumph heads and have tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets,=
magic goo=C2=A0 etc etc.,=C2=A0 with none of them=C2=A0 totally fixing it=
=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>
unless the crankcase breather blocked,=C2=A0=20
they never really leaked badly there when new (some weeped),=C2=A0 so its=
=C2=A0mostly a result of all the stuff we do to them to make them go faster=
.=C2=A0 certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head does not help, as the edge get=
s very thin and=20
the clamp force over by the pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no=
wonder they leak at worst and weep at best=C2=A0
. Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big issue to be solved as =
others have discussed<br><div><br></div><div></div><div>long ago, i changed=
to using=C2=A0 multiple=C2=A0vents/breathers but the biggest improvement=
=C2=A0was using WURT 250 sealant=C2=A0 on every joint , and my last race 2.=
5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaskets!!<=
br></div><div><br></div><div>my=C2=A0 "secret' is to follow WURT i=
nstructions and lay a tiny round bead on the block edge near the pushrods a=
nd let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes before fitting the head (jus=
t enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it and try to smooth it out.=C2=
=A0 By all means , fit the head with whatever "quality" gasket th=
at your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a copper gasket and just =
re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spray or brush on sealant real=
ly works (or is needed) on a conventional head gasket,=C2=A0 but some coppe=
r ones may benefit</div><div><br></div><div>we used this WURT 250 sealant i=
n our engine shop for years and all-but eliminated warranty claims for leak=
ing gaskets. A version called WURT 250 RED is great on triumph gearboxes, a=
nd overdrives, again, zero leaks if applied correctly. For the very best re=
sult, every surface must be washed with thinners or acetone, and not touche=
d by hands etc=C2=A0 thereafter. it has a limited shelf life of about a few=
weeks once opened , but we used tubes of it every week, so that was not an=
issue.</div><div><br></div><div>i hope=C2=A0this might assist someone</div=
><div><br></div><div>Terry</div><div>(down under, but not quite as far &quo=
t;down" as geoff Byrne)=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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