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Re: [Fot] Seat belts

To: robert bownes <bownes@seiri.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Seat belts
From: Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 06:32:55 -0500
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
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Thank you Robert!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 11:23 PM, robert bownes <bownes@seiri.com> wrote:
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> My dad=E2=80=99s Fisher Body Ltd factory (outside Belfast, N. Ireland) mad=
e seat belts for Opel and Vauxhall (and Holden iirc).
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> I got to see firsthand the crash test dummy in the sled in the testing dep=
artment. They were mostly testing mechanisms, but they also tested the UV ef=
fect on batches of webbing. Let us just say, despite my cheap nature, I have=
 never, ever, been tempted to push the dates on seatbelts.  At 5 years expos=
ure, the extra stretch was about 25%, which was enough to hit a steering whe=
el. After that, it fell off dramatically. At 10 years, they were pretty much=
 useless, the dummy was in the safety net. And this met regulations at the t=
ime!
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> By the way, the safety net had to be replaced regularly too. The dent in t=
he cinder block wall spoke volumes. :)
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>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 22:19, kkjjk--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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>> Understood, Phil, thanks!- Jay
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
>> To: kkjjk <kkjjk@aol.com>
>> Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 10:13 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Seat belts
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>> If your belts are certified by SFI they will be good for 2 years from the=
 date of manufacture. If they carry an FIA certification, they will be accep=
ted for 5 years from the date of manufacture. SVRA enforces the dates to the=
 month. SCCA will cut you some slack and let you go to the end of the calend=
ar year in which they expire.
>> Phil Gott
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 9:31 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=

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>>> Hello FOT-  Does anyone know how long seat belts are good for?  I have r=
ead here on FOT that SVRA will be checking belts at the Kastner Cup.  I just=
 got new belts from Summit Racing, and the tag says they expire June 2022.  I=
 thought that belts were good for 5 years?   Could these belts be "old"(as i=
n NOS) or are they only good for 2 years?  My present belts are over 5 years=
 old.  Yikes!-- Jay
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Thank you Robert!<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">S=
ent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Ma=
r 4, 2020, at 11:23 PM, robert bownes &lt;bownes@seiri.com&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<met=
a http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">My dad=E2=80=99s Fisher Body Ltd factory (outside Belfast, N. Irel=
and) made seat belts for Opel and Vauxhall (and Holden iirc).</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I got to see firsthand the crash test dummy=
 in the sled in the testing department. They were mostly testing mechanisms,=
 but they also tested the UV effect on batches of webbing. Let us just say, d=
espite my cheap nature, I have never, ever, been tempted to push the dates o=
n seatbelts. &nbsp;At 5 years exposure, the extra stretch was about 25%, whi=
ch was enough to hit a steering wheel. After that, it fell off dramatically.=
 At 10 years, they were pretty much useless, the dummy was in the safety net=
. And this met regulations at the time!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">By the way, the safety net had to be replaced regularly too. Th=
e dent in the cinder block wall spoke volumes. :)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On Mar 4, 2020, at 22:19, kkjjk--- via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wr=
ote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt arial;">Under<font size=3D"2">stood, Ph=
il, thanks!- Jay<br>
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riginal Message-----<br>
From: Phil Gott &lt;vfracing@aol.com&gt;<br>
To: kkjjk &lt;kkjjk@aol.com&gt;<br>
Cc: fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 10:13 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Seat belts<br>
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<div>If your belts are certified by SFI they will be good for 2 years from t=
he date of manufacture. If they carry an FIA certification, they will be acc=
epted for 5 years from the date of manufacture. SVRA enforces the dates to t=
he month. SCCA will cut you some slack and let you go to the end of the cale=
ndar year in which they expire.
<div>Phil Gott<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 4, 2020=
, at 9:31 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8225681691yqt2614023578" id=3D"yiv8225681691yqt46815">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;"><font size=3D"2">Hello FOT-&nbsp=
; Does anyone know how long seat belts are good for?&nbsp; I have read here o=
n FOT that SVRA will be checking belts at the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; I just got n=
ew belts from Summit Racing, and the tag says they expire June 2022.&nbsp; I=
 thought that belts were good for 5 years? &nbsp; Could these belts be "old"=
(as in NOS) or are they only good for 2 years?&nbsp; My present belts are ov=
er 5 years old.&nbsp; Yikes!-- Jay<br clear=3D"none">
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