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Re: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...

To: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>, "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...
From: David Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 17:18:46 +0000 (UTC)
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Nick,
My other suggestion would have been to try a smaller master cylinder. =C2=
=A0I have a similar setup with Tilton dual discs and went to a larger .75 m=
aster, because my pedal movement was too far! =C2=A0 But you=E2=80=99ve alr=
eady tried that one!
Dave


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On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
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It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance of slippage=
=20
 Was it all in good working order and then it just got funky or did anythin=
g lead up to it?It sounds like a heck of a shock load to break a gear, hard=
 to believe that it's a friction surface issue, sounds more mechanical.Glen
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From: Nick Black via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: fot@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Apr 21, 2020 9:08 pm
Subject: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...

OK, so I've had a weird problem with the clutch on The Duke of Oil (TR4A). =
It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance of slippage=
 to get goin. The engagement was so sudden that it broke a side gear in the=
 locker. Upon review everything appeared well within spec. I changed the cl=
utch disc. transmission input shaft and changed the throwout bearing sleeve=
. No dice...same issue.Got it apart again and have changed everything...dis=
c, pressure plate, bearing, crankshaft bush, cross shaft bushings, clutch h=
ose, clutch slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder...pedal assembly seem=
s smooth without any binding. Have also double pinned the throwout fork to =
the cross shaft.
SO...any thoughts?
Also have pinned the throwout bearing flange so that it will not spin on th=
e sleeve. Anybody else pin the flange, or do you let it turn on the sleeve?=
 Why/why not?
Broken gears and tears in NorCalNick

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Nick,<div><br></div><div>My other suggestion would have been to try a small=
er master cylinder. &nbsp;I have a similar setup with Tilton dual discs and=
 went to a larger .75 master, because my pedal movement was too far! &nbsp;=
 But you=E2=80=99ve already tried that one!</div><div><br></div><div>Dave<b=
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sday, April 22, 2020, 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; w=
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ockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid blue;padding-left:3px;">It suddenly=
 started acting like an off/on switch with no chance of slippage </blockquo=
te></div>

<div> Was it all in good working order and then it just got funky or did an=
ything lead up to it?</div>

<div>It sounds like a heck of a shock load to break a gear, hard to believe=
 that it's a friction surface issue, sounds more mechanical.</div>

<div>Glen<br clear=3D"none">
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To: fot@autox.team.net &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">OK, so I've had a weird problem with the clutch on The Duk=
e of Oil (TR4A). It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no c=
hance of slippage to get goin. The engagement was so sudden that it broke a=
 side gear in the locker. Upon review everything appeared well within spec.=
 I changed the clutch disc. transmission input shaft and changed the throwo=
ut bearing sleeve. No dice...same issue.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Got it apart again and have changed everything...disc, pre=
ssure plate, bearing, crankshaft bush, cross shaft bushings, clutch hose, c=
lutch slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder...pedal assembly seems smoo=
th without any binding. Have also double pinned the throwout fork to the cr=
oss shaft.</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">SO...any thoughts?</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Also have pinned the throwout bearing flange so that it wi=
ll not spin on the sleeve. Anybody else pin the flange, or do you let it tu=
rn on the sleeve? Why/why not?</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Broken gears and tears in NorCal</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Nick</div>

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