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Subject: Re: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:41:01 +0200
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Hmmm=E2=80=A6..mechanical noise?

Two things come to my mind:

1.      A flywheel bolt is touching the clutch plate?
2.      Too much leash in the drive train? Gearbox, prop shaft, diff?

Cheers

Chris

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Von: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von fubog1 via Fot
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. April 2020 18:56
An: fot@autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...

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It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance of =
slippage=20

Was it all in good working order and then it just got funky or did =
anything lead up to it?

It sounds like a heck of a shock load to break a gear, hard to believe =
that it's a friction surface issue, sounds more mechanical.

Glen

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Sent: Tue, Apr 21, 2020 9:08 pm
Subject: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme Again...

OK, so I've had a weird problem with the clutch on The Duke of Oil =
(TR4A). It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance =
of slippage to get goin. The engagement was so sudden that it broke a =
side gear in the locker. Upon review everything appeared well within =
spec. I changed the clutch disc. transmission input shaft and changed =
the throwout bearing sleeve. No dice...same issue.

Got it apart again and have changed everything...disc, pressure plate, =
bearing, crankshaft bush, cross shaft bushings, clutch hose, clutch =
slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder...pedal assembly seems smooth =
without any binding. Have also double pinned the throwout fork to the =
cross shaft.

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SO...any thoughts?

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Also have pinned the throwout bearing flange so that it will not spin on =
the sleeve. Anybody else pin the flange, or do you let it turn on the =
sleeve? Why/why not?

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Broken gears and tears in NorCal

Nick

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class=3DMsoNormal>Hmmm=E2=80=A6..mechanical noise?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Two things come to my mind:<o:p></o:p></p><ol =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D1 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>A flywheel bolt is =
touching the clutch plate?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Too much leash in the =
drive train? Gearbox, prop shaft, diff?<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE> Fot =
&lt;fot-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>fubog1 via =
Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 22. April 2020 18:56<br><b>An:</b> =
fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme =
Again...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
2.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It =
suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance of slippage =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Was=
 it all in good working order and then it just got funky or did anything =
lead up to it?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It =
sounds like a heck of a shock load to break a gear, hard to believe that =
it's a friction surface issue, sounds more =
mechanical.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gle=
n<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Nick Black via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: =
Tue, Apr 21, 2020 9:08 pm<br>Subject: [Fot] Its Opinion Tyme =
Again...<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv2214356800><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>OK, so I've had a weird problem with the clutch on The Duke of Oil =
(TR4A). It suddenly started acting like an off/on switch with no chance =
of slippage to get goin. The engagement was so sudden that it broke a =
side gear in the locker. Upon review everything appeared well within =
spec. I changed the clutch disc. transmission input shaft and changed =
the throwout bearing sleeve. No dice...same =
issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>Got it apart again and have changed everything...disc, pressure plate, =
bearing, crankshaft bush, cross shaft bushings, clutch hose, clutch =
slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder...pedal assembly seems smooth =
without any binding. Have also double pinned the throwout fork to the =
cross shaft.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>SO...any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>Also have pinned the throwout bearing flange so that it will not spin =
on the sleeve. Anybody else pin the flange, or do you let it turn on the =
sleeve? Why/why not?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>Broken gears and tears in NorCal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
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><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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