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To: Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Question
From: Dave Connitt via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:46:30 -0500
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Hi Jack,
.360=E2=80=9D equals 3.29mm.
Dave Connitt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 23, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Thanks Tom.  I have the original transmissions from my TR-2 and TR-3 sitti=
ng in my garage.  I just measured the thickness of the flange and it is .360=
" on both.  I don't know what that converts to in millimeters.  I assume the=
 early TR-4 was about the same, although the gearbox housing casting was dif=
ferent due to going to the fully synchronized transmission on the TR-4 (and s=
ome TR-3B's)
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> As to my original question, I dug out my factory parts books for TR-2 - TR=
-6 to check the part numbers for the slave cylinder support bracket.  Unfort=
unately, my TR-2 parts book is for TR-2 through TR-3A, and while it shows 2 d=
ifferent part numbers, it doesn't tell when the change was made.  So, I thin=
k the TR-2 and some of the TR-3's used bracket part number 106701.  At some p=
oint during the TR-3 run, they changed to part number 128042.  Interesting e=
nough that same part number appears in both the TR-4 and the TR-4A parts boo=
ks.  Therefore, once they changed to 128042, they stayed with it for all the=
 rest of the TR-4's and TR-4A's.
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> The tr-6 bracket is completely different (it doesn't curve around the bell=
 housing) and it is part number 136353.
>=20
> So, that's all I know.  If anyone knows when, during the TR-3 run they swi=
tched to the 128042 part number, I would like to know.  Also, if you have a b=
racket which you know is for a TR-4 or 4A, please check the measurement betw=
een the top holes, as explained in my original email below, and let me know t=
he distance between them.Thanks.
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> Jack
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> On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 1:20:43 PM EST, trhouse@columbus.rr.com <tr=
house@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
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> I think you are correct about the TR4 or TR6 the flange on the TR6 bell ho=
using is thicker.  I'll check a TR2 / Doretti here in the garage but will be=
 a while till I get to the storage area to check anything else=20
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> New Facebook with confirming early history=20
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> https://www.facebook.com/dorhouse1/
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> -----------------------------------------
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> From: "Jack Wheeler via Fot"=20
> To: "FOT Triumph"
> Cc:=20
> Sent: Saturday January 23 2021 1:07:23PM
> Subject: [Fot] Question
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> I have a question about the bracket that the clutch slave cylinder attache=
s to.  This bracket is attached to the bottom of the bell housing and is sup=
ported by a 5/16" rod that goes from the bottom of this bracket and attaches=
 to one of the oil pan bolts.  Got that so far?
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> I have 2 of these brackets and they are different.  It looks like the diff=
erence is in the hole location and shape.  One bracket would appear to locat=
e the slave cylinder closer to the bell housing than the other.  I assume on=
e of these is for a TR-3, and the other for a TR-4, although who knows when t=
hey made the change.  My question is which is which?
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> It looks to me like the best way to differentiate is the difference in the=
 upper hole location, that is, the 2 holes at the top of the bracket when in=
stalled.  One of my brackets has the top holes approximately 1 5/8" apart on=
 center.  The other bracket has the top holes 1 13/16" apart on center.
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> So does anyone have a bracket which is known to be for a TR-3 or one known=
 to be for a TR-4.  If so, could you please measure the distance between the=
 top holes on center?  Thanks for your help, and if anyone has any informati=
on about when this was changed (and why), I would be interested in that.
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> Jack Wheeler
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi Jack,<div>.360=E2=80=9D equals 3.29mm.</=
div><div>Dave <span style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);"=
>Connitt</span><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 23, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Jack Wheele=
r via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp2319d3deyahoo=
-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-ser=
if;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks Tom.&nbsp; I have the o=
riginal transmissions from my TR-2 and TR-3 sitting in my garage.&nbsp; I ju=
st measured the thickness of the flange and it is .360" on both.&nbsp; I don=
't know what that converts to in millimeters.&nbsp; I assume the early TR-4 w=
as about the same, although the gearbox housing casting was different due to=
 going to the fully synchronized transmission on the TR-4 (and some TR-3B's)=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
-setdir=3D"false">As to my original question, I dug out my factory parts boo=
ks for TR-2 - TR-6 to check the part numbers for the slave cylinder support b=
racket.&nbsp; Unfortunately, my TR-2 parts book is for TR-2 through TR-3A, a=
nd while it shows 2 different part numbers, it doesn't tell when the change w=
as made.&nbsp; So, I think the TR-2 and some of the TR-3's used bracket part=
 number 106701.&nbsp; At some point during the TR-3 run, they changed to par=
t number 128042.&nbsp; Interesting enough that same part number appears in b=
oth the TR-4 and the TR-4A parts books.&nbsp; Therefore, once they changed t=
o 128042, they stayed with it for all the rest of the TR-4's and TR-4A's.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false">The tr-6 bracket is completely different (it doesn't curve ar=
ound the bell housing) and it is part number 136353.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">So, th=
at's all I know.&nbsp; If anyone knows when, during the TR-3 run they switch=
ed to the 128042 part number, I would like to know.&nbsp; Also, if you have a=
 bracket which you know is for a TR-4 or 4A, please check the measurement be=
tween the top holes, as explained in my original email below, and let me kno=
w the distance between them.Thanks.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fal=
se"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><br>=
</div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydpb9723ed8yahoo_quoted_1818022821" class=3D"ydpb97=
23ed8yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 1:20:43 PM EST, trhouse@c=
olumbus.rr.com &lt;trhouse@columbus.rr.com&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpb9723ed8yiv6442467585"><div>I think you a=
re correct about the TR4 or TR6 the flange on the TR6 bell housing is thicke=
r. &nbsp;I'll check a TR2 / Doretti here in the garage but will be a while t=
ill I get to the storage area to check anything else&nbsp;<div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div>New Facebook with confirming early history&nbsp;</div><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>https://www.facebook.com/dorhouse1/<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpb9723ed8yiv6442467585reply-new-si=
gnature"></div><div class=3D"ydpb9723ed8yiv6442467585yqt0306122145" id=3D"yd=
pb9723ed8yiv6442467585yqt05401"><p>-----------------------------------------=
</p>From: "Jack Wheeler via Fot" <br clear=3D"none">To: "FOT Triumph"<br cle=
ar=3D"none">Cc: <br clear=3D"none">Sent: Saturday January 23 2021 1:07:23PM<=
br clear=3D"none">Subject: [Fot] Question<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e">
<div class=3D"ydpb9723ed8yiv6442467585yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family=
:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a question about the
bracket that the clutch slave cylinder attaches to.&nbsp; This
bracket is attached to the bottom of the bell housing and is
supported by a 5/16" rod that goes from the bottom of this bracket
and attaches to one of the oil pan bolts.&nbsp; Got that so
far?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I have 2 of these brackets and
they are different.&nbsp; It looks like the difference is in the
hole location and shape.&nbsp; One bracket would appear to locate
the slave cylinder closer to the bell housing than the other.&nbsp;
I assume one of these is for a TR-3, and the other for a TR-4,
although who knows when they made the change.&nbsp; My question is
which is which?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">It looks to me like the best way
to differentiate is the difference in the upper hole location, that
is, the 2 holes at the top of the bracket when installed.&nbsp; One
of my brackets has the top holes approximately 1 5/8" apart on
center.&nbsp; The other bracket has the top holes 1 13/16" apart on
center.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">So does anyone have a bracket
which is known to be for a TR-3 or one known to be for a
TR-4.&nbsp; If so, could you please measure the distance between
the top holes on center?&nbsp; Thanks for your help, and if anyone
has any information about when this was changed (and why), I would
be interested in that.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Jack Wheeler<br clear=3D"none"></div>
</div></div>
</div></div></div></div>
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