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Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question

To: "'Tony Sheach'" <tony.sheach@live.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question
From: "T. R. Householder via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 18:14:45 +0000 0+R3+r24t+jgsNpdxrrnY58X7w5/mElV1fPoBN9tjAthtmnaw+uE1naqigMQQzDqDnjvKOA8QfKhiOLIZMx3u8JhVGJsuXD8yKhwlD3KGZsvnKP9VIRimZ+L
Cc: 'FOT Triumph' <fot@autox.team.net>
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When we were setting up originality guidelines for TRA there was input=
=0Aof random differences in frame color. some were positive finds. I=0Ap=
ersonally took it as what ever was in the paint gun at the time the=0Afr=
ame was posted for paint went on it . predominately they were Black =0AT=
om=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Tony Sheach v=
ia Fot" =0ATo: "Henry A. Morrison"=0ACc: "FOT Triumph"=0ASent: Tuesday J=
anuary 26 2021 12:51:10PM=0ASubject: Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question=
=0A=0A Hi all =0A Motor show cars sometimes had white chassis - I cam ac=
ross this she=0Alooking at the records at BMIHR Gaydon when I started bu=
ilding the=0A1958 Earls Court demonstrator (3a) registered 2SMC. =0A Car=
s had three =E2=80=98standards=E2=80=99 of prep it seems and the records=
 show=0A=E2=80=98A/A=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98A/B=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98A/C=E2=80=
=99 etc but no one seems to know what that=0Areally meant. I surmised th=
at it might be rolling chassis, display car=0Aand demonstrator car for t=
est use just by looking at the 57 and 58=0Arecords and the cars pictured=
 and my car, which had nice chrome bits=0Aeverywhere but was also clearl=
y nicely prepped at one time. Other at=0AEarls Court that year were two=
 shiny white 3a=E2=80=99s and a white rolling=0Achassis. The red Glasgow=
 and Geneva car Registered 3SMC looks to have=0Aa white chassis from the=
 period B&W pics. Could be all wrong of=0Acourse. =0A The other white ch=
assis cars were from the competitions department=0Awho tended to paint s=
ome Chassis white (not all by any means) so that=0Acracks could be seen=
 easily. This flowed into the TR4 programme, where=0Aeach of the four ca=
rs alway ran on white chassis frames and still do=0Atoday. =0A Hope this=
 is useful Tony  =0A=0ASent from my iPad =0A On 26 Jan 2021, at 17:10, H=
enry A. Morrison via Fot  wrote:=0A=0A =EF=BB=BF  My red 1960 has a whit=
e frame................I think my '57=0Awhite car is white as well......=
.......  =0A  Henry Morrison   =0A=0A=09Sent from  Outlook [1]=0A=0A---=
----------------------=0AFROM: Fot  on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot=
 =0ASENT: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:04 AM=0ATO: Steven Belfer =0ACC:=
 FOT Triumph =0ASUBJECT: Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question     Essentia=
lly, that=0Aseems to be true.=0A=0A But I suspect white slipped through=
 once in awhile because of display=0Achassis, etc.=0A=0A I encountered i=
t when I was involved in a concours.=0A=0A Joe Alexander=0A 4505 Donald=
 Dr=0A Cedar Falls, IA 50613=0A The-vintage-racer.com=0A Gasketinnovatio=
ns.com=0A Cell: 319.464.4711=0A=0A > On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Steve=
n Belfer via Fot  wrote:=0A >=0A > =EF=BB=BFI need help setting an onlin=
e debate on Facebook. Did TR3 frames=0Aever come from the factory in col=
ors other than black? I say black=0Aonly.=0A >=0A > ~Steve=0A >=0A > ___=
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<html><body>When we were setting up originality guidelines for TRA there=
 was input of random differences in frame color. some were positive find=
s. I personally took it as what ever was in the paint gun at the time th=
e frame was posted for paint went on it . predominately they were Black&=
nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=
=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>--------------------------------------=
---</p>From: "Tony Sheach via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net><br>To: "Henry A.=
 Morrison"<br>Cc: "FOT Triumph"<br>Sent: Tuesday January 26 2021 12:51:1=
0PM<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question<br><br>=0AHi all=0A<d=
iv><br></div>=0A<div>Motor show cars sometimes had white chassis - I cam=
 across=0Athis she looking at the records at BMIHR Gaydon when I started=
=0Abuilding the 1958 Earls Court demonstrator (3a) registered=0A2SMC.</d=
iv>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Cars had three =E2=80=98standards=E2=80=99=
 of prep it seems and the records=0Ashow =E2=80=98A/A=E2=80=99, =E2=80=
=98A/B=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98A/C=E2=80=99 etc but no one seems to know what=
 that=0Areally meant. I surmised that it might be rolling chassis, displ=
ay=0Acar and demonstrator car for test use just by looking at the 57 and=
=0A58 records and the cars pictured and my car, which had nice chrome=0A=
bits everywhere but was also clearly nicely prepped at one time.=0AOther=
 at Earls Court that year were two shiny white 3a=E2=80=99s and a=0Awhit=
e rolling chassis. The red Glasgow and Geneva car Registered=0A3SMC look=
s to have a white chassis from the period B&amp;W pics.=0ACould be all w=
rong of course.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>The other white chassis c=
ars were from the competitions=0Adepartment who tended to paint some Cha=
ssis white (not all by any=0Ameans) so that cracks could be seen easily.=
 This flowed into the=0ATR4 programme, where each of the four cars alway=
 ran on white=0Achassis frames and still do today.</div>=0A<div><br></di=
v>=0A<div>Hope this is useful</div>=0A<div>Tony&nbsp;</div>=0A<div><br><=
/div>=0A<div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>=0A<div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br>=0AOn 26 Jan 2021, at 17:10, Henry A. Morrison via Fot=0A&l=
t;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF=0A<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size=
:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);">=0AMy red 1960 has a white frame...............=
I think my '57 white=0Acar is white as well..............</div>=0A<div=
 style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);">=0A<br></div>=0A<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvet=
ica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);">=0AHenry Morrison</div=
>=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);">=0A<br></div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<p>Sent f=
rom <a href=3D"https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dht=
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v>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div></div>=0A<div style=3D"font-family:C=
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/div>=0A<hr style=3D"width:98%;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri,=
 sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt;"><b>From:</b> Fo=
t=0A&lt;fot-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Joe Alexander via=0A=
Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 26, 2021=
 10:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> Steven Belfer &lt;steve@artwithcars.com&gt;<br><=
b>Cc:</b> FOT Triumph &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re:=
 [Fot] TR3 frame color question</font>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A<d=
iv class=3D"BodyFragment">=0A<div class=3D"PlainText"><font size=3D"2"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">Essentially, that seems to be true.<br><b=
r>=0ABut I suspect white slipped through once in awhile because of=0Adis=
play chassis, etc.<br><br>=0AI encountered it when I was involved in a c=
oncours.<br><br>=0AJoe Alexander<br>=0A4505 Donald Dr<br>=0ACedar Falls,=
 IA 50613<br>=0AThe-vintage-racer.com<br>=0AGasketinnovations.com<br>=0A=
Cell:&nbsp; 319.464.4711<br><br><br>=0A&gt; On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:55 AM=
, Steven Belfer via Fot=0A&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br>=0A&gt;<b=
r>=0A&gt; =EF=BB=BFI need help setting an online debate on Facebook. Did=
 TR3=0Aframes ever come from the factory in colors other than=0Ablack?&n=
bsp;&nbsp; I say black only.<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; ~Steve<br>=0A&gt;<br>=
=0A&gt; _______________________________________________<br>=0A&gt; fot@a=
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